Paris Hilton raer

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http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/entertainment/5310416.stm

[ashra]

Prize for the first one to be spotted on eBay for vastly inflated figure.

Hardly surprising that customer's didn't spot the difference with the doctored sleeves, 'topless figure with the face of a dog'.

[nosoul]

brilliant

[SARGE]

skillz fo sho.
but he should have just killed her......well.

[Campag Record]

This is great and funny but unfortunately just more publicity for her.

Slightly relelated, a few weeks ago I was listening to 5 Live (new Saturday night movie/music review show) and they were playing the new track by her and wanting listeners opinions. I think they played a portion of the track about 4 times in the next 30 mins of the show!They then proceeded to do features on Robbie Williams, Kylie Minogue and Justin Timberlake stuff!

Who says the beeb are dumbing down

[Viva Chiba]

http://cgi.ebay.com/banksy-paris-hil...QQcmdZViewItem

What do I win ?

That "auction" looks well suspect, probably just a prank. It just says "what would you pay for one?" and doesn't even confirm that the seller has the item. What a nob. Does have a link to pics of this elusive beast though. . .


http://gossip.elliottback.com/2006/0...s-album-cover/

Looks like it doesn't have a dogs head on the front, only on the inlay. She's merely rather exposed on the cover, which is slightly more subtly doctored than the booklet. . .

See youse lot later. I'm off to HMV Oxford Street - you'll find me' in the "mainstream shitty pop" section, diggin' for one of these raers. . .

Alleged download of track here. . .not listened to it yet. . .

http://rapidshare.de/files/31848659/That_s_Hot.m4a.html

[peretti]

I hate to say it but I much prefer Paris Hilton's awful warblings to Banksy's plodding beats.

[wayne]

Banksy is really in a bit of bind now, isn't he: desparate to cling onto his 'outsider' status, he's become the very media-twat coffee table fodder his work was supposed to oppose. I suppose a gesture like this is aimed more at reasserting his street credentials than doing Hilton any great harm, whatever the intentions, and it's telling that the shops whose stock he's supposedly vandalised are happy to commend it as a cool stunt. Truth is, if Hilton's label had paid him to do this to garner some free publicity, and create a sort of 'golden ticket' effect on her CD sales, the results would be no different. And it's not an imaginitive intervention: those images are basically Jamie Reid plus Goldfrapp's second album, which combined with the fact that marketing and media are rammed with people who read some situationism at Uni and like to think they're still a bit edgy and street, I wouldn't be too surprised to learn it was paid for, or smarter still, a hoax perpetrated by someone else. Truth is, this kind of rebellion is long past its sell-by. If you really want to kick over the traces, go and produce something transcendently beautiful in pencil, paint and printed words, which really can't be swallowed without choking on the essential pointlessness of the whole damn circus, where Hilton and Banksy are both now performing in the same ring.

[Striker]

Banksy is really in a bit of bind now, isn't he: desparate to cling onto his 'outsider' status, he's become the very media-twat coffee table fodder his work was supposed to oppose. I suppose a gesture like this is aimed more at reasserting his street credentials than doing Hilton any great harm, whatever the intentions, and it's telling that the shops whose stock he's supposedly vandalised are happy to commend it as a cool stunt. Truth is, if Hilton's label had paid him to do this to garner some free publicity, and create a sort of 'golden ticket' effect on her CD sales, the results would be no different. And it's not an imaginitive intervention: those images are basically Jamie Reid plus Goldfrapp's second album, which combined with the fact that marketing and media are rammed with people who read some situationism at Uni and like to think they're still a bit edgy and street, I wouldn't be too surprised to learn it was paid for, or smarter still, a hoax perpetrated by someone else. Truth is, this kind of rebellion is long past its sell-by. If you really want to kick over the traces, go and produce something transcendently beautiful in pencil, paint and printed words, which really can't be swallowed without choking on the essential pointlessness of the whole damn circus, where Hilton and Banksy are both now performing in the same ring.

I know what you're saying but I think banksy's put the graft in to elevate himself from prank. He's been doing this for ages now and it's not really his fault that he's been embraced by his targets, he's imaginative, creative, skillfull & has the balls & motivation to get of his arse & actually do something.

The perceived quality of the work really comes secondary to the message. Like a talking dog, it's not how well it talks, but the fact that it does it at all.
As for them performing in the same ring? I'll wager that the people searching for the ammended CDs wouldn't be seen dead buying the real deal.


Hilton's fair game considering she bestrides both the old notions of Upper/Ruling Class such as inherited fortune & family connections & the new ones such as empty fame & celebrity.

[peretti]

I like Banksy. In his book he included a letter from some pissed off Hoxton resident accusing him of being one of the main accelerators of the middle-class Hoxtonite invasion, due to all the trendy tossers wanting to live somewhere edgy with graffiti, i.e safe, artsy graffiti instead of the usual BNP-style scrawlings or "Taneisha is a slut" etc.. Banksy ruefully acknowleges that might well be the case...

[wayne]

I know what you're saying but I think banksy's put the graft in to elevate himself from prank. He's been doing this for ages now and it's not really his fault that he's been embraced by his targets, he's imaginative, creative, skillfull & has the balls & motivation to get of his arse & actually do something.

Don't get me wrong - I like his work too, but the fact that it's been not only accepted but imitated by its targets renders it powerless, and I suspect he needs to change tack to remain effective. Maybe he can't be effective anymore, maybe he can, but I don't think that 'being edgy', 'outsider' tactic has any juice left in it, as it's the tone sought by every consumer product on the planet (except Saga holidays - and I await their 'Over 50s X-Treme' insurance deals in graffiti-pastiche leaflets with a sense of inevitability).

The perceived quality of the work really comes secondary to the message. Like a talking dog, it's not how well it talks, but the fact that it does it at all.
As for them performing in the same ring? I'll wager that the people searching for the ammended CDs wouldn't be seen dead buying the real deal.

I think the quality of the work is the message. If what you're doing isn't much different to consumer crap, and you rely on attitude and a 'message' alone, you've no grounds to be bothered when Hilton or anyone else does the same. What is the message here? Hilton is an overprivileged waste of space? No shit Sherlock! It's precisely what she's been selling herself on for years... By 'in thesame ring', I mean both are in different parts of the marketplace: the subversive minded types now seeking the Banksy versions are simply adding to the interest in her CD, not undermining the advertising campaign.

[babycart]

It's about as arty and subversive as that woman who did those photos/TV programmes of celebrities in amusing situations using lookalikes and blurry film. I can't even remember her name.

Joe Orton and Kenneth Halliwell did this with library books over forty years ago, anyway, and went to jail for it. Their stuff was funnier than Banksy's too. And will fetch far more money nowadays than these cds

[Striker]

I half agree with you but i still think it's a bit harsh, this is a departure from his usual style. If he'd just stencilled a doctored paris pic on hmv's windows then it'd be same-old-same-old, but the work that's gone into these is no 2minute job, the stickers, booklet printing creating the CD all effectively given away for free (well a tenner for the hilton coffers which itself is a strangely beautiful conceit).
as the americans say, i'm not mad at it.

and saying it's all been done before..... we can play that game all day

however hackneyed this appears to be to some aged curmudgeons, lets ask a bunch of people in the street under 30 who Joe Orton is. I doubt even one in ten would be able to name any of his work. All things work in cycles, I bet people were saying rebellion & playing the outsider were played out six months after Rebel Without A Cause hit the screens.

that said it's all fluff really isn't it, he may as well get a horse & start heading for the windmills.

Now a kidnapping.......

[beddoes]

as the americans say, i'm not mad at it.

I just went out into the street and said this to a random passerby. "Are you from Australia?" she asked.

[wayne]

I half agree with you but i still think it's a bit harsh...

I know I'm being a bit harsh, but it's because (a) I expect a bit more from Banksy, especially as the stuff he did on the Israel/Palestine wall really seemed to raise his game and (b) I don't think it's that 'rebellion is over/played out', but that you simply can't subvert the media by using its own tools: at best, you just become a research lab of innovative new techniques for marketers/advertisers to use, at worst you help to make media/marketing itself seem cool and edgy, like it's the only place where anything subversive can be achieved. If I knew what someone in Banksy's (enviable but unenviable) position ought to do next, I'd be doing it myself, but at this point in time, you'd be better off seeking subversion in the British Museum's collections of ancient artifacts than on the streets - there's work in there that has the temerity to put the likes of Paris Hilton into real perspective: she's a passing flea on a goat's flank, and Banksy, mate, she's not worth the bother. The less time you spend worrying about her, the sooner she'll be gone.

[beddoes]

Paris Hilton is ugly. For some reason this bothers me. It's as though she's hoodwinked the public in a new way. When was the last time we genuinely thought an unattractive person was exceedingly hot?

[Striker]

yeah but, you'd get one if you saw it on the shelf wouldnt you

you're right though, but when it comes down to it if he's the only one doing it then I'd take this over nothing, makes life in Babylon a little more interesting & bearable at the very least.

I just went out to hmv round the corner from my flat and shamelessly rifled the hilton shelf...... nothing..... only a small chip out of my continually dwindling self respect. I was ready to shoplift it as well

[Joe M'geek]

Paris Hilton is ugly. For some reason this bothers me. It's as though she's hoodwinked the public in a new way. When was the last time we genuinely thought an unattractive person was exceedingly hot?

happens a lot with male salabrities...and I'm not sure anyone really thinks Paris 'lazy eye' Hilton is 'hot'

[Lord Thames]

It's about as arty and subversive as that woman who did those photos/TV programmes of celebrities in amusing situations using lookalikes and blurry film. I can't even remember her name.

Alison....erm, thingummy...something....anyway, The Saturday Night Armistice did what she does much better.

[babycart]

Paris Hilton is ugly. For some reason this bothers me. It's as though she's hoodwinked the public in a new way. When was the last time we genuinely thought an unattractive person was exceedingly hot?

Jennifer Aniston: she's actually a camel.

[beddoes]

happens a lot with male salabrities...and I'm not sure anyone really thinks Paris 'lazy eye' Hilton is 'hot'

Does it though? Bruce Willis is presented as hot, but how many women really think he is?

[beddoes]

Jennifer Aniston: she's actually a camel.

I forgot about her. Mariah Carey, too. Nobody ever thought Celine Dion was hot, right?

I remember wondering how in the world the guys in N'Sync (Timberlake excepted) had made their way into so many teen hearts.

[Viva Chiba]

Celine Deon. . blech!

Check out these ill raer sick listenings chaps. . .

http://cgi.ebay.com/PARIS-HILTON-BAN...QQcmdZViewItem

Wish my wife worked in WH Smith

I think rather sadly, Banksy opening his mouth about this stunt, and publicising it before all the CD's were sold, has simply converted his act of protest into yet another redundant commodity. The deed is done, he's got a few more column inches, and now this "art" is "collectible". Egads.

Like Wayne said, it's easier for the market to assimilate forms of protest, and adopt or fetishise their aesthetics, than to confront them head on in a clash of ideologies. If you can put a price on it. . .

[wayne]

Paris Hilton is ugly. For some reason this bothers me. It's as though she's hoodwinked the public in a new way. When was the last time we genuinely thought an unattractive person was exceedingly hot?

Everytime they inherit and/or acquire large sums of money, or are the offspring of other famous people. Look at everyone from Princess Di and her sons to Chelsea Clinton, that pro-Hunting Brian Ferry lad or Peaches Geldof, not a single one of them would stand out in a queue outside a provincial club, but all are touted as eligible/sexy and plasted all over ads and glossy mags. Wayne Rooney's about the only non-looker with money and fame who isn't touted as a sex god of some sort.

[Joe M'geek]

Does it though? Bruce Willis is presented as hot, but how many women really think he is?

I've done a bit of background mooching in movies...and most supposedly 'hot' male actors I've seen have actually been weird looking dwarfs with 'CUNT' written all over their faces. Jared Leto, Orlando Bloom, that punchy Irish one...er Farrell.

All the chicks still drool over them, but seriously, they photograph well, avec le stilts, but in the flesh...its just cos they are rich and famous, innit. Same with Lazy Eye Hilton...if guys do fancy her, its cos they reckon she'll be pure filth in the sack rather than any kind of genuine physical attractiveness

men are into filthy birds, and women are into rich/powerful men...generally speaking, regardless of appearance

[beddoes]

Everytime they inherit and/or acquire large sums of money, or are the offspring of other famous people. Look at everyone from Princess Di and her sons to Chelsea Clinton, that pro-Hunting Brian Ferry lad or Peaches Geldof, not a single one of them would stand out in a queue outside a provincial club, but all are touted as eligible/sexy and plasted all over ads and glossy mags. Wayne Rooney's about the only non-looker with money and fame who isn't touted as a sex god of some sort.

I think you've misread me, Wayne. Of course it takes nothing but fame and/or money to get touted as a looker. But I personally believe the public doesn't really buy it (in the gut, so to speak) most of the time. I've never met anybody who thinks Chelsea Clinton is gorgeous. It's different with Paris Hilton. People seem to genuinely believe (the word "genuinely" was the key word in my post) that Paris Hilton is impossibly hot. I don't get it.

[beddoes]

I've done a bit of background mooching in movies...and most supposedly 'hot' male actors I've seen have actually been weird looking dwarfs with 'CUNT' written all over their faces. Jared Leto, Orlando Bloom, that punchy Irish one...er Farrell.

All the chicks still drool over them, but seriously, they photograph well, avec le stilts, but in the flesh...its just cos they are rich and famous, innit. Same with Lazy Eye Hilton...if guys do fancy her, its cos they reckon she'll be pure filth in the sack rather than any kind of genuine physical attractiveness

men are into filthy birds, and women are into rich/powerful men...generally speaking, regardless of appearance

Funny thing is, if they've seen the video they know that Paris Hilton is very far from being pure filth! Cookie? I rest my case...

[wayne]

I don't get it.

Me neither, then. But twigs were never my thing anyway. Or blondes (exceptions made for Catherine Deneuve, Julie Delpy and a few others, obviously). Cool is hotter than hot anyday.

[beddoes]

There's a university organization here in the States that interviews regular ol' college students male and female every year about which celebrities they'd most like to sleep with. What's interesting is how the top ten list differs from the list that, say, Maxim would put out, or the different list that People would produce. For years Drew Barrymore topped the list, and most of the other women on it had similarly womanish figures. Waifish celebrities like Winona Ryder, Gwyneth Paltrow and the like were routinely passed over for Kate Winslet and Barrymore and even, one year, Christina Ricci...

[babycart]

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men are into filthy birds,

I think that basically sums it up. Mae West, Marlene Dietrich and Barbara Stanwyck were all fairly plain, but they became sex symbols due to talent, wit and the idea that they went at it like trains. If you watch Blue Angel, Dietrich clumps about like a bloke and her body is nothing special, but she’s still utterly compelling; West was fat by todays standards, but was frank and funny about sex, and Stanwyck was mousy, but in Double Indemnity she is as hot as anyone has been on screen.

Modern stars like Aniston, Julia Roberts and Paris Hilton seem to appeal to women rather than men, anyway. I cant think of a real sex symbol since Linda Fiorentino.