Seeking BBC Northern Dance Orchestra - "Ritual Fire Dance"

[jazzmanUSA]

Hello, and thanks in advance for your help. I am posting this from the USA, hoping you might be able to direct me to a particular recording of the BBC Northern Dance Orchestra. I do not know the label or date of the recording.

I overheard a recording of them on a streaming Internet big band station, playing "Ritual Fire Dance" from 'El Amor Brujo' By Manuel de Falla. When I contacted the station, they said they had played it from a CD that had been burned by a former employee, who is now deceased. There was no indication as to the original recording used as the source for the copy the station had.

I have searched the Internet now for weeks without success. In fact, I only ever found one reference to a specific album by the NDO. I came across your website, and hoped that possibly someone reading this Foum might be able to assist me in my quest.

Now, just as an item of explanation -- the reason I am searching for this particular recording is that I believe the arrangement of Ritual Fire Dance they performed was used in writing an arrangement of that song which was performed way back in 1978 by the Bridgemen Drum & Bugle Corps of Bayonne, New Jersey. For those of you who are not familiar with the drum & bugle corps activity, the Bridgemen can be easily Googled, and many video of the corps "back in the day" are up on various Internet video sites. The Bridgemen were a pioneer in moving the activity away from the historic militaristic style, and toward a more theatrical and entertaining genre. As appreciators of music, some of you who do not know them may be entertained as well.

For a history of the corps, check out the site of the newly created Bridgemen Alumni Corps, http://www.bridgemen.com. I had the privilege of marching as a member of the Alumni Corps in 2006, despite never having marched drum corps previously (you can always use another 4th baritone with a 6-note range !!!! ). Wikipedia has plenty of information about the activity as a whole.

I also just recently learned that in the early '80's, there was a "clone" corps somewhere in the UK, called the "Beechmen". The few photos I've found show them in the identical yellow coats and black hats as the Bridgemen. I supposed imitation is indeed the sincerest form of flattery !!!!

At any rate, if any of you might have any suggestions on where I might inquire as to the name or label of this particular recording of the BBC Northern Dance Orchestra, I would be very much obliged indeed. Please EM me with any information.

Doug Brown
Pickerington Ohio USA

[antwhiplash2]

Welcome Doug, not sure i can really help, but you could try the following site. It is a 78 rpm collectors site but because of the style of music you're looking for it's likely you could find someone there who might be able to help you as there are people there who collect big band music.
There are plenty of people from the USA involved in the site.
Good luck.
http://www.jabw.demon.co.uk/collect1.htm

[smashingcheesegromit]

Hello, and thanks in advance for your help. I am posting this from the USA, hoping you might be able to direct me to a particular recording of the BBC Northern Dance Orchestra. I do not know the label or date of the recording.

I overheard a recording of them on a streaming Internet big band station, playing "Ritual Fire Dance" from 'El Amor Brujo' By Manuel de Falla. When I contacted the station, they said they had played it from a CD that had been burned by a former employee, who is now deceased. There was no indication as to the original recording used as the source for the copy the station had.

I have searched the Internet now for weeks without success. In fact, I only ever found one reference to a specific album by the NDO. I came across your website, and hoped that possibly someone reading this Foum might be able to assist me in my quest.

Now, just as an item of explanation -- the reason I am searching for this particular recording is that I believe the arrangement of Ritual Fire Dance they performed was used in writing an arrangement of that song which was performed way back in 1978 by the Bridgemen Drum & Bugle Corps of Bayonne, New Jersey. For those of you who are not familiar with the drum & bugle corps activity, the Bridgemen can be easily Googled, and many video of the corps "back in the day" are up on various Internet video sites. The Bridgemen were a pioneer in moving the activity away from the historic militaristic style, and toward a more theatrical and entertaining genre. As appreciators of music, some of you who do not know them may be entertained as well.

For a history of the corps, check out the site of the newly created Bridgemen Alumni Corps, http://www.bridgemen.com. I had the privilege of marching as a member of the Alumni Corps in 2006, despite never having marched drum corps previously (you can always use another 4th baritone with a 6-note range !!!! ). Wikipedia has plenty of information about the activity as a whole.

I also just recently learned that in the early '80's, there was a "clone" corps somewhere in the UK, called the "Beechmen". The few photos I've found show them in the identical yellow coats and black hats as the Bridgemen. I supposed imitation is indeed the sincerest form of flattery !!!!

At any rate, if any of you might have any suggestions on where I might inquire as to the name or label of this particular recording of the BBC Northern Dance Orchestra, I would be very much obliged indeed. Please EM me with any information.

Doug Brown
Pickerington Ohio USA

hi my friend
has it got to be the bbc northern dance version,as its a popular tune!
this is actualy syd lawrence,he recorded an album in 1975 called "ritual fire dance" on philips label,he was a member of the bbc northern dance orchestra,so it may help if you look for syd lawrence lp,s as well
there are many different versions of this tune on musicstack.com
hope this helps

[jazzmanUSA]

hi my friend
has it got to be the bbc northern dance version,as its a popular tune!
this is actualy syd lawrence,he recorded an album in 1975 called "ritual fire dance" on philips label,he was a member of the bbc northern dance orchestra,so it may help if you look for syd lawrence lp,s as well
there are many different versions of this tune on musicstack.com
hope this helps

The Internet station called it the Northern Dance Orchestra after the selection played. Could be it was a Syd Lawrence LP, "of the Northern Dance Orchestra", or something to that effect. I only know what they said, and they said the NDO.

But I'll look for him, as well as the sites on the first reply post.

Thanks to all !!! Anybody else with any ideas, I sure welcome them --- this has become very frustrating trying to find this ! Actually, it's this one particular arrangement I'm trying to find, so I'm very hopeful I find the one I heard on streaming audio......

[pitch]

Try this website - which has a really good jazz forum too:

http://www.allaboutjazz.com/

[SeahavenMick]

Hello, and thanks in advance for your help. I am posting this from the USA, hoping you might be able to direct me to a particular recording of the BBC Northern Dance Orchestra. I do not know the label or date of the recording.

I overheard a recording of them on a streaming Internet big band station, playing "Ritual Fire Dance" from 'El Amor Brujo' By Manuel de Falla. When I contacted the station, they said they had played it from a CD that had been burned by a former employee, who is now deceased. There was no indication as to the original recording used as the source for the copy the station had.

I have searched the Internet now for weeks without success. In fact, I only ever found one reference to a specific album by the NDO. I came across your website, and hoped that possibly someone reading this Foum might be able to assist me in my quest.

Now, just as an item of explanation -- the reason I am searching for this particular recording is that I believe the arrangement of Ritual Fire Dance they performed was used in writing an arrangement of that song which was performed way back in 1978 by the Bridgemen Drum & Bugle Corps of Bayonne, New Jersey. For those of you who are not familiar with the drum & bugle corps activity, the Bridgemen can be easily Googled, and many video of the corps "back in the day" are up on various Internet video sites. The Bridgemen were a pioneer in moving the activity away from the historic militaristic style, and toward a more theatrical and entertaining genre. As appreciators of music, some of you who do not know them may be entertained as well.

For a history of the corps, check out the site of the newly created Bridgemen Alumni Corps, http://www.bridgemen.com. I had the privilege of marching as a member of the Alumni Corps in 2006, despite never having marched drum corps previously (you can always use another 4th baritone with a 6-note range !!!! ). Wikipedia has plenty of information about the activity as a whole.

I also just recently learned that in the early '80's, there was a "clone" corps somewhere in the UK, called the "Beechmen". The few photos I've found show them in the identical yellow coats and black hats as the Bridgemen. I supposed imitation is indeed the sincerest form of flattery !!!!

At any rate, if any of you might have any suggestions on where I might inquire as to the name or label of this particular recording of the BBC Northern Dance Orchestra, I would be very much obliged indeed. Please EM me with any information.

Doug Brown
Pickerington Ohio USA

Hi Doug
Just picked up your request almost by accident via Google. Don't know if you have had any luck yet, but
"Ritual Fire Dance" is track 5 on a CD called "The Fabulous NDO - A Legend Reborn!"
The CD number is NDO CD101.
I acquired a copy new around 7 or 8 years ago and believe it was a limited production released by an individual from within the BBC with their permission and co-operation. The case notes indicate that the NDO made no commercial recordings and those on the CD are said in the notes to have been "rescued".
I think you would be lucky to find a copy unless it was from a collector as there were probably relatively few copies of this CD produced.
If I can be of further help, em me.
SeahavenMick
Seaford, East Sussex. UK

[jazzmanUSA]

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[IanP]

Hello

Apparently you are looking for the Ritual Fire Dance performed by the Northern Dance Orchestra. I'm Ian Parr who did the original recordings for the BBC in the the 60's. I manage to re-release the recordings on two discs in 2003, so if you would like a copy of Ritual Fire Dance please get in contact with me, sending me your details .. via my daughters email address andreaparr01@hotmail.com
United Kingdom

Best wishes Ian

[Kelvin19]

Where can I find De Falla's Ritual Fired Dance for violin?

I saw a youtube video of someone playing De Falla's Ritual Fire Dance on violin with piano accompaniment. I have been looking for it all over the place and haven't been able to find it. I emailed the user on youtube asking him where he got it and I have gotten no response. Does anyone know where I can find the sheet music? (Yes, I definitely am willing to PAY for it unlike most on the board who are always looking for free music)

[rainbowffolly]

Where can I find De Falla's Ritual Fired Dance for violin?

I saw a youtube video of someone playing De Falla's Ritual Fire Dance on violin with piano accompaniment. I have been looking for it all over the place and haven't been able to find it. I emailed the user on youtube asking him where he got it and I have gotten no response. Does anyone know where I can find the sheet music? (Yes, I definitely am willing to PAY for it unlike most on the board who are always looking for free music)

Hi Kelvin,

Not really my thing, but after a quick search, it looks like the sheet music is out there.

This violin book looks like it contains it - amongst other pieces - and is £14.95:
http://www.musicroom.com/se/ID_No/00...html?kbid=1296

The same place do just the individual piece you're after for violin and piano for less than a tenner:
http://www.musicroom.com/se/ID_No/020359/details.html

And if you're not feeling not quite on top of the world, but more at the bottom, then this place in Australia do the violin and piano sheet music too:
http://www.violins.com.au/products.p...ual fire dance

Cheers,


RF

[space debris]

(Yes, I definitely am willing to PAY for it unlike most on the board who are always looking for free music)

[rainbowffolly]

To be fair, I don't think he understands that the "wants" section is for trades only and not for buying and selling - if someone wants a record then they're supposed to trade a record (or records) of theirs that someone else wants for it. Fair enough, people probably make cash offers that have been accepted, but I reckon the mods had the right idea as it's a hell of a lot better than having priced lists and all the politics they bring with them.

[ginghamkitchen]

To be fair, I don't think he understands that the "wants" section is for trades only and that arriving one day and slagging everyone off a few minutes later is a bit of an idiotic thing to do

[rainbowffolly]

I was just trying to obtain my "Junior Diplomacy" Cub Scouts badge.

To be honest, I think I might have failed on Sunday, when after a visit to the local convent, a nun with a defective hearing aid misheard something I said as "Do you like wimple wench?".

[jakartajive]

Does anyone know where I can find the sheet music? (Yes, I definitely am willing to PAY for it

May I be so bold as to ask how much?

[ginghamkitchen]

May I be so bold as to ask how much?

If it's 'in kind', I don't want to know.

[rainbowffolly]

If it's 'in kind', I don't want to know.

I was once told by some Mexican banditos with Zappata moustaches that they thought my toytown psych collection was "Sheet Music".

[ndofanmr]

Web site now up, maybe they can help with all things NDO.
www.northendanceorchestra.org.uk
Regards

[vinyldub]

www.gemm.com