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  1. 01-09-2004, 11:20 AM #1
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    As there are several of us who are on the VV site alarmingly frequently and also buy/sell on eBay, might there be a possibility of having some sort of VV endorsement of our sales? Maybe a logo of some sort that shows our membership of this community and a link to the site?

    Might lend that bit more credibility to us and show buyers what kind of area we specialise in (and also that we, to an extent, know our onions - "Ooh Jill, you know your onions!&quot.

    And it may also lead more bods to the site, even if only out of curiosity.

    Or are we keeping it as a local site for local people?

    Just a thought.
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    Not really sure how that'd benefit the site Ben? Especially seeing how strictly the 'trades' rather than 'sales' aspect of the board is adhered to. And it wouldn't benefit bidders either, only sellers. Sounds a bit S**lstrut to me (no offence to our crossposting brethren  )...
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    But then people will click on the link, research the record and get that 'pay no more than 50p' warning for all the bits of chuff that I'm selling.
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    hahaha yeah nice call there Blighty.

    Ben - I don't see any halm in linking to the vv site in your auctions - but perhaps slapping down a 'certified vulture' seal of approval just wouldn't do much at all and possibly be abused by dodgy gits.
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    Quote Originally Posted by [b
    Quote[/b] (sermad @ Aug. 31 2004,12:53)]slapping down a &#39;certified vulture&#39; seal of approval just wouldn&#39;t do much at all and possibly be abused by dodgy gits.
    Poor old pokester...

    Is there a sort of &#39;Electronic Masonic Handshake&#39; version you could use, only recognisable to other Vultures?

    Be more useful if we could hall have a little VV next to the star rating on ebay, so we know for sure we&#39;re not bidding against each other. I can only memorise so many ebay handles, and I try not to bid against my own customers as well...

    And I&#39;m not getting any more brain cells at this point...
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    That&#39;s the only way it would work, otherwise you&#39;re simply putting people on to good stuff and driving the price up - aren&#39;t all VVs born bargain hunters?&#33;
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    Quote Originally Posted by [b
    Quote[/b] (wayne @ Sep. 01 2004,11:59)]Poor old pokester... Â
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    Quote Originally Posted by [b
    Quote[/b] ]Not really sure how that&#39;d benefit the site Ben? Especially seeing how strictly the &#39;trades&#39; rather than &#39;sales&#39; aspect of the board is adhered to. And it wouldn&#39;t benefit bidders either, only sellers. Sounds a bit S**lstrut to me (no offence to our crossposting brethren )...
    OK, I admit that I haven&#39;t thought this through as thoroughly as my plan to abduct Rachel Stevens, but I thought that it might benefit more than just the seller. Bidders can see a kind of seal of approval that this or that person is essentially a decent sort (as most on here undoubtedly are. And as I have no friends, I might like to belong to some sort of gang.

    In terms of benefit to the site, do you not think that new arrivals might just have something new to contribute? Maybe there is more knowledge out there just waiting to be unleashed. I&#39;m pretty sure that I&#39;d like to have new artists/tunes etc revealed to me - whatever the source.

    Next time I&#39;ll road-test my theory a bit better before exposing myself (insert &#39;fnarr&#39; here Rich) to public ridicule.
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    Sorry to butt in but..

    Good manners state that a VV cannot bid against another VV. However, I don&#39;t know everyone&#39;s Ebay handle. Would it be possible for people to add their Ebay handles to their signatures to aide my memory?
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    Quote Originally Posted by [b
    Quote[/b] (Benicio Del Toffo @ Sep. 01 2004,12:33)]...insert &#39;fnarr&#39; here Rich...
    Right, that&#39;s it&#33; Since I&#39;ve obviously been tarred with that brush, I&#39;ll change my name to Finbar Saunders. No amount of denial will convince you lot so I may as well join you. Â Â Â

    And we&#39;ve already got close on 500 board members, which seems pretty healthy? New members do seem to arrive from somewhere, so the &#39;if they can find VV using Google or by chatting to a mate&#39; intelligence test seems to be doing alright.
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    I think its best not to be giving vv handles out unless you actually bid on something by accident and they email to say about it - quite a few people here don&#39;t mind if fellow vultures bid against them and I guess they want the privacy of their handle.
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    Serms and I have discussed this before.

    You&#39;re relying on everyone being honest mate and there may be some folk who have several eBay accounts/handles and who may only be known to you under one name, then bid against you using another alias.

    Far-fetched? I know someone in Nottingham who has three accounts. One to buy &#39;breaks&#39;, one to buy HipHop and the other to sell HipHop/breaks.
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    Quote Originally Posted by [b
    Quote[/b] ]I think its best not to be giving vv handles out unless you actually bid on something by accident and they email to say about it - quite a few people here don&#39;t mind if fellow vultures bid against them and I guess they want the privacy of their handle.
    That&#39;s a shame. I thought not bidding against each other was a good bit of chivalry in the decadent world of record collecting. I will now not hold off from bidding.
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    Quote Originally Posted by [b
    Quote[/b] ]Right, that&#39;s it&#33; Since I&#39;ve obviously been tarred with that brush, I&#39;ll change my name to Finbar Saunders. No amount of denial will convince you lot so I may as well join you.
    Done with love Rich. So what if there&#39;s a bit of the Charles Hawtrey about you? Somethings are just funny because they are. I may become more intellectual and effete over time, but I&#39;ll always find a bit of double-entendre makes me giggle.

    I mean, when Portugal went up for their runners-up medals in Euro 2004, did I really need to text people to look out for their reserve goalkeeper? No. But I did and how we laughed&#33;
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    lhc - I think you misunderstood me mate. I never knew your ebay id until last night where I found one of your auctions and put two and two togther. I&#39;m not going to blurt out your ebay id as I know people like to keep things low key.

    I totally abide by the vv code - last month it was andy soul fiend beating me to the punch and before it was sneaky ole rich hero&#33; other day it was john s. Saved me a ton of cash boys&#33; nice.
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    Hello Sermad - You may be thinking of Veris. He has just started selling stuff on Ebay.
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    Quote Originally Posted by [b
    Quote[/b] (sermad @ Sep. 01 2004,12:44)]I think its best not to be giving vv handles out unless you actually bid on something by accident and they email to say about it - quite a few people here don&#39;t mind if fellow vultures bid against them and I guess they want the privacy of their handle.
    It&#39;s nice rule of thumb, to be aware of other VVs when bidding, but what about the 400 odd other members? Worst case scenario: lurk for info without giving back, other members post up their ebay names, said lurkers simply look up what the ebay names are bidding on and outbid&#33;

    Worst case mind... It&#39;s nice to say &#39;oh you go ahead&#39; but what if it&#39;s a record you&#39;ve wanted for years, for your own reasons and not simply a paste in from someone else&#39;s want list? It could simply come down to the fact that one VV has some crazy PC software that finds anythng and everything that you&#39;re remotely interested in and another doesn&#39;t.

    I think better to inform the VV you&#39;ve recognised that you intend to bid for the item, how Âserious you really are about acquiring it and how much you&#39;re prepared to go. The other VV could simply be bidding not that seriously for a spare copy... I think that&#39;s a nice thing to do, but as far as it should go, rather than the &#39;I saw it first&#39; rule - that just benefits some and not others...
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    And so it goes on....

    Just email the person to ask how serious they are. Happens to me all the time. I stick a £5 &#39;marker&#39; up. Other vulture emails me to ask my top bid. I got 5 now and maybe £20 on a snipe. They go oh I want to pay £30. I say sure go for it. End of story&#33; If they get it cheap good luck to them. Thats how it works in my book&#33;



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    Quote Originally Posted by [b
    Quote[/b] (Benicio Del Toffo @ Sep. 01 2004,12:49)]Done with love Rich. So what if there&#39;s a bit of the Charles Hawtrey about you? Somethings are just funny because they are. I may become more intellectual and effete over time, but I&#39;ll always find a bit of double-entendre makes me giggle.

    I mean, when Portugal went up for their runners-up medals in Euro 2004, did I really need to text people to look out for their reserve goalkeeper? No. But I did and how we laughed&#33;
    No offence taken mate&#33; And what do you expect when my mother thinks &#39;Carry On&#39; was the height of comic culture? ÂBlame the parents...

    Anyway, what&#39;s with the Portuguese reserve goalie? (I&#39;m not a footie fan but I do have Portuguese colleagues so leg-pulling ammo is always appreciated  ).
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    Portuguese goalie was (the mighty) Quim.

    Reports that he was indeed an eskimo are as yet unsubstantiated.
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    Quote Originally Posted by [b
    Quote[/b] (Nick Cope @ Sep. 01 2004,13:00)]It&#39;s nice rule of thumb, to be aware of other VVs when bidding, but what about the 400 odd other members? Worst case scenario: lurk for info without giving back, other members post up their ebay names, said lurkers simply look up what the ebay names are bidding on and outbid&#33;
    I agree Nick.

    There is an occasional poster on the board here who has repeatedly outbid me on items. If I see an ID of someone I know - and there&#39;s plenty of you out there - I don&#39;t bid. The problem is that not eveyone follows these rules.
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    Fair point Nick...

    Also if you use any of the Snipe services you can&#39;t set them to check who else has bid.

    i.e. I might have spotted something and put a snipe on whilst not actually bidding...if some fellow VV (that I know of) then puts an actual bid on - then should I cancel my Snipe ?

    I think some of us know each other&#39;s &quot;handles&quot; - especially when some are sellers as well - and we try and be gentlemen when we see others bidding - but even then I may be prepared to pay more anyway and if I don&#39;t bid then what&#39;s to stop an &quot;outsider&quot; outbidding anyway.

    Having said that, do people know my ebay name ??

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    Quote Originally Posted by [b
    Quote[/b] (Benicio Del Toffo @ Sep. 01 2004,13:13)]Portuguese goalie was (the mighty) Quim.

    Reports that he was indeed an eskimo are as yet unsubstantiated.


    I have friends who come from Coimbra (pronounce quimborough)...
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    Quote Originally Posted by [b
    Quote[/b] (Si Cheeba @ Sep. 01 2004,13:16)]Having said that, do people know my ebay name ??

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    I just wanted him to get a game so I could see how Motty (fnarr) would get around it by pronouncing it &#39;Keem&#39; or something.

    Rather like &#39;Koonts&#39; (Kuntz) in Euro 96.
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    Quote Originally Posted by [b
    Quote[/b] (Rich Hero @ Sep. 01 2004,13:18)]
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    Quote[/b] (Si Cheeba @ Sep. 01 2004,13:16)]Having said that, do people know my ebay name ??

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    Yessir&#33; Â ÂDunno why you use that handle though?
    T&#39;was the name of our tailor from back in the day...we were known as the ********** crew&#33; and even named a night after him...

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    I dont know yours cheeba but that doesnt matter. When have you ever wanted to bid on something that I&#39;m already bidding on? Chances are its never.

    With regards to snipes - thats why I put marker bids down. It shows my intent and won&#39;t harm my chance of a snipe. Also if I&#39;m not top bidder then people can just check the bid history to see I might want a punt.
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    Quote Originally Posted by [b
    Quote[/b] (Si Cheeba @ Sep. 01 2004,13:25)]T&#39;was the name of our tailor from back in the day...we were known as the ********** crew&#33; Â and even named a night after him...

    Excellent&#33; I can picture exactly what his shop would look like - perfect name.

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    Quote Originally Posted by [b
    Quote[/b] (Si Cheeba @ Sep. 01 2004,13:25)]T&#39;was the name of our tailor from back in the day...we were known as the ********** crew&#33; Â and even named a night after him...

    you&#39;re not &#39;john collier john collier the window to watch&#39; on ebay, are you mate?
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    Quote Originally Posted by [b
    Quote[/b] (john stapleton @ Sep. 01 2004,13:30)]
    Quote Originally Posted by [b
    Quote[/b] (Si Cheeba @ Sep. 01 2004,13:25)]T&#39;was the name of our tailor from back in the day...we were known as the ********** crew&#33; Â and even named a night after him...

    you&#39;re not &#39;john collier john collier the window to watch&#39; on ebay, are you mate?
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