Rare or not so rare ?

[djvw]

I have a question for the UK based people on the board.

Part of my 'collecting jungle/D&B habbit' is that I try to find all versions of a release I like. White label, full version, coloured vinyl etc.
Sometimes a tune is also released as a cd-single. When I see these offered on Discogs the prices can be rather high in comparison with the vinyl version. For example 15 pounds for Stamina on Suburban Base.

I was wondering if anybody can tell me if these cd-singles are rare or not these days?

The ones I already have I bought on various trips to Londen some years ago and then I paid 10 pounds max, but most of them were around the 5 pounds mark. Most I bought in the various MV Exchanges, but I even found some in Charity shops.

[The Divine One]

On discogs, each release tells you how many people own it and how many people want it. Plus it tells you what previous copies have sold for. So it's all pretty transparent. Can't imagine there's too many drumnbasd cd single collectors, but what do I know?!

[djvw]

You are right about that, but I never take those numbers very seriously. I buy 12"s on discogs but have no wantlist.
Sometimes you read stuff like "possibly only 10 copies pressed" and next to that it says "8 people have this".

Thanks for the tip about the "what previous copies have sold for"! I never noticed that.

[vinylism]

what era are you talking? early / mid 90's? my guess is that early stuff sold only on vinyl to buyers (no-one i know who collected it was remotely interested in CDs), with CDs maybe aimed at radio stations or the like. or if they went to shops they perhaps sold very few and were returned to the warehouse to be destroyed. i can't recall ever seeing CDs for this kind of stuff personally. but then i never looked for them

[djvw]

I'm indeed talking about the mid 90's. Lets say 91-97.
You will be surprised what tunes got a cd-single release.
Back in those days I visited London every 3 to 4 months to catch up on what I've missed and when available I bought a tune on vinyl to play on the decks and on cd-single to play in the car.
You could be right about the quantities being rather low.

[vinylism]

You will be surprised what tunes got a cd-single release.

no doubt! i remember when i got sent promos of this type of stuff you'd have to request CDs, if they were available. maybe they're just scarce rather than indemand?

[djvw]

I did some more research and asked a friend of mine in London who worked at the recordshop Boogie Times around 1995. He couldn't remember seeing, let alone selling CD-singles back in those days. It was all vinyl.
So the cd-singles probably went to HMW, Tower or big shops like that. I know for sure I bought some there.

[soul doubt]

I did some more research and asked a friend of mine in London who worked at the recordshop Boogie Times around 1995. He couldn't remember seeing, let alone selling CD-singles back in those days. It was all vinyl.
So the cd-singles probably went to HMW, Tower or big shops like that. I know for sure I bought some there.

You might well be able to find CD singles of the tunes that charted. Things like Pulp Friction, Feel the Sunshine, some of the GLR/LGR...I dunno whether these are all too 'late' for you. Some people feel that the golden era was gone once the tunes started to chart high...

[Willy-Fogg]

I bought loads of hardcore on CD single as a young buck and was pleasantly surprised when I cashed them in a few years ago. I had stuff like:

Project 1 - Don Gargon Coming
Acen - Trip II the Moon (Part 2)
Sonz of a loop de loop era - Peace & Loveism
Run Tings - Back Again
2 Bad Mice - 1 Bad CD
Metalheads - Terminator
Urban Shakedown - Some Justice

I had other (lesser) Sub Base, Moving Shadow and Rising High releases on CD but the above are the ones that I miss most and have gradually been replacing on vinyl.

Most sold for more than £15 with a couple going for closer to £30. One buyer was a young guy playing at 'old school' hardcore nights with CD decks. Prices seem a bit lower for most on Discogs now, but to answer your question - yes, I think that they're reasonably hard to find. Plus, many lots of early/mid 90s bedroom DJs still haven't turned in their collections. I know that a few of my mates still have this sort of stuff on vinyl and there's probably even less of a need to clear out the old CDs as they take up little space and the owners still have CD players.

WF

[djvw]

You might well be able to find CD singles of the tunes that charted.

That could be the case. I must say I have no idea what tunes charted or not. None of them charted around here in Holland

Alex Reese's Pulp Fiction would be great, but not available according to Discogs. That such a good tune! When it came out I didn't like it at all, but it grew on me over the years and it's now one of my favourite tunes. So simple, but so effective.

[djvw]

Wow ... Terminator on cd ... nice.

Plus, many lots of early/mid 90s bedroom DJs still haven't turned in their collections. I know that a few of my mates still have this sort of stuff on vinyl and there's probably even less of a need to clear out the old CDs as they take up little space and the owners still have CD players.
WF

You could very well be right about that.

I don't think I will turn in my collection anytime soon. In fact it's still growing since the day it started around 93.

[Just The Sound]

only way you could mix tracks back in the mid 90's was on vinyl because cdj's weren't available then. vast majority of people buying likes of hardcore and jungle were people who probs had decks and mixed them. labels like reinforced, production house, etc etc did release stuff on cd single but like i say who's gonna buy them? answer is not many hence them being scarce and valuable. loads of dj's use cd decks now so that probs explains the rise in original cd single sales as people get into collecting original cd releases in the same way others do with vinyl.