Electric Banana
Acetates - Any Extra Value ?
I've managed to pick up a 45 that I've been after for a while (and is a bit of a fave of a good few people on the board from recollection) for cheap, but in the form of an original acetate as opposed to the normal vinyl.
Now, I'm guessing as this issue is just an acetate of exactly the same stuff on the regular 45, that it has no more intrinsic value that the it's more flacid sibling ? Probably even less ?
As a rule, is this the case ?
Last edited by Matt Hero; 15-09-2005 at 05:41 PM.
Matt Hero
Ugly Custard
i'd be inclined to agree.It's one of those slighly grey areas really.Depends on the style of music/style of collectors for that music.Depends on the artist.
Depends if you find an obsessive completist for that artist.
Generally if it's the same as the released track it ain't gonna be worth any more than the issue and yes a lot of the time it's gonna be worth less but of course it does depend on the style of music you're talking about.
Billy Ocean
They're mostly sought after by collectors of specific artist collectors who need to have all issues, demos etc of everything. Also, that odd breed of London label collectors prize them highly as they see them as the ultimate promo & therefore earlier than all other pressings. Acetates were also used as testers so there's the possibility that it may be a different recording or mix than the eventual product, obviously making it rarer. I would definitely say it is rarer than than a normal press, even if it is exactly the same recording, purely due to the fact that only a few would have been produced. I'd also say it's a 'keeper' rather than a 'player' as their fragility would give you only about 50 good plays before is fooks up.
I seem to recall selling you an acetate via ebay a few years ago Matt
Spill the beans on your purchase then....
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Chocolate Rain
I would say less for that one you've got mate. Unless its some sort unreleased song by elvis/beatles/insert shite dead band here.
*good eyes tho*
Electric Banana
The Johnny Keating and the Z Men one ? Yeah, still got that actually...Originally Posted by Col Wolfe
I seem to recall selling you an acetate via ebay a few years ago Matt
Anyway, this is what I got.... plays fine.... but for how long ? I take it it *will* wear out ?
Matt Hero
Billy Ocean
That's the kiddie
Nice. Just take care of it and store it carefully
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Electric Banana
acetates do wear out very quickly, alas, due to their very nature. they're useless for djing (apart from for the very short term).
as a result, their value is very much determined by the artist / rarity of the item in question. as sermad says, if it was a biggie, then SELL it like crazy.
otherwise, it's just something that's really nice to have that appeals to the inner geek in every record collector. imho, anyways.
Lonely Jelly
There's a great myth about acetates wearing quickly- 30 plays and all that. It can take that many plays just to break them in... An acetate can last for ages. As for extra value though - not really unless they have a different mix; certain dubs missinng etc, but you knew that already.
Animated Egg
wow, thats a nice item - you sure its excactly the same as the release? I persomaly always buy acetates and over the years i have found some unreleased goodies, including stuff by Jacky Giordano, Baden Powell, Daniel Janin.
Electric Banana
Hi, sorry to hijack the thread but.....
Is it straightforward and cheap process to transfer an acetate to vinyl? Anybody know who can do this.
A friend has an unreleased Northern Soul acetate so I would imagine there may be a market for it.
Electric Banana
Well, that's a problem, because I don't have an original to judge against
Ok, I have the 'Best of' with 'Les Levres Rouges' on it an it's identical on that side, but I'm judging the flip against a lousy MP3 taken from a bootleg LP, which appears to be an edit of what I have on the 45... missing the first half of the track (and heading straight into the beaty bit). I presume that the full version is on the released 45 ?
No gear to do a rip right now - all still in the storage unit
Matt Hero
Lonely Jelly
yeah, it's the full version on the b-side, the beaty section is only the last half/third of the track....I'm judging the flip against a lousy MP3 taken from a bootleg LP, which appears to be an edit of what I have on the 45... missing the first half of the track (and heading straight into the beaty bit). I presume that the full version is on the released 45 ?
Electric Banana
Cool, that's what I thought. So, it's exactly the same as the released version. Just a few quid cheaper
Matt Hero
Lonely Jelly
Are you asking for help so your friend can bootleg a tune?
Electric Banana
Hmmm....I did not think about it that way.Are you asking for help so your friend can bootleg a tune?
Theres no info on the acetate. It seems to be the only copy of the tune. In this situation would it not be better to get the song out there?
Lonely Jelly
Another Northern out there? No.
Electric Banana
If I remember correctly, he took it to some do and played it to a couple of big DJs and none of them knew it. He got offered big money for it.
I heard it when he played it down 'The Program'. It was OK.
Lonely Jelly
'it was ok'
haha, that sums up a lot of what you hear about the Northern scene!
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