Vertigo Mixed

**eric-adams** · 16-09-2005, 03:45 PM

sorry if this is old news but i got the vertigo mixed by andy votel cd this week. and very nice it is too. i never new about this sort of stuff before but thought i would check it out as it sounded interesting. and i love it. only thing is now my wants list getting longer.

**sermad** · 16-09-2005, 03:52 PM

Have you seen the last two issues of record collector? Had a nice price guide to vertigo.

**eric-adams** · 16-09-2005, 03:58 PM

yeah got them, very interesting reading the only thing i had heard of before was black sabbath. going to be looking out for a lot of that stuff from now on. i also got the vertigo time machine 3 cd box set because of the vertigo mixed cd and theres loads of cool stuff on it. got me digging out all my old rock and stuff again. dont really fancy admiting i like prog rock though heheh.

there was a shop in leicester that was just prog stuff anyone know if thats still there? may have to go down and check it out, probably couldnt afford anything in there though!!.

**son of stan** · 16-09-2005, 04:08 PM

Originally Posted by sermad

Have you seen the last two issues of record collector? Had a nice price guide to vertigo.

I couldn't believe some of those prices - I clearly remember many of those LPs clogging the racks of the second hand shops of my youth (..mind you, this was a quarter of a century ago

)

**sermad** · 16-09-2005, 04:28 PM

You used to see bad vertigo's around at the record fairs loads. You couldnt give them away. Loads of dealers told me they binned loads of them.

Now you've got crap ones going for £50! Kerazeeeeeee.

I would take some of those prices with a pinch of salt though. Ebay seems to differ!

**benjamin hatton** · 17-09-2005, 01:22 PM

Originally Posted by eric-adams

there was a shop in leicester that was just prog stuff anyone know if thats still there? may have to go down and check it out, probably couldnt afford anything in there though!!.

that'll be "ultima thule" right next to the train station...it's actually not too bad price-wise, worth checking...and yes, it's still there!

**eric-adams** · 19-09-2005, 12:57 PM

Yeah i agree a complete tracklisting would be good
though i suppose it wouldnt have fitted on the back of the cd cover.
there is some stuff id like to find out though.
also does your copy on track 4 skip or sound like it skips/ sticks? its been puzzling me as if its meant to sound like that. or if mine was broke.

**Delay 68** · 19-09-2005, 01:06 PM

Check the licensing credits guys, full tracklisting in the correct order.

**Xavier_Blake** · 19-09-2005, 02:48 PM

Originally Posted by Delay 68

Check the licensing credits guys, full tracklisting in the correct order.

Or check out http://www.cdtimes.co.uk/content.php?contentid=1762

(although being a total ignoramous and not having a copy of the CD to hand this could be totally incorrect?).

**mendoza** · 19-09-2005, 03:15 PM

Originally Posted by eric-adams

also does your copy on track 4 skip or sound like it skips/ sticks? its been puzzling me as if its meant to sound like that. or if mine was broke.

Been wondering the same thing

and figured it's meant to be... Now sure that it's all part of the mix... Is it there to mess with your head or a fresh new technique???

**wms68** · 19-09-2005, 05:06 PM

Yep, same with mine - couple of little glitches. In fact, its a problem I've had on a few cd comps recently, including the Funk:Mode comp, and the lp version does not have the same glitches.

Both great comps though!

On the vertigo tip, I have a handful of the vertigo lps, (Affinity, Aphrodite's Child, Black Sab, Nucleus) and was wondering what people feel are the standout vertgo lp's (whole albums rather than tracks).

Out of the ones I have it's go to be Affinity, but I do struggle sometimes to listen to the whole albums (particularly 666) from start to finish.

Whilst on the prog rock front, what other labels standout in this era, and are worth checking out?

**benjamin hatton** · 19-09-2005, 05:17 PM

Originally Posted by wms68

I do struggle sometimes to listen to the whole albums (particularly 666) from start to finish.

you're not the only one to struggle with the whole of "666"

**Rich Hero** · 19-09-2005, 05:36 PM

Originally Posted by benjamin hatton

you're not the only one to struggle with the whole of "666"

Is it 'Infinity' with that woman moaning? I can't listen to that.

wsm68 - the other label that immediately springs to mind is Harvest (check out 'Mantlepiece' by the Battered Ornaments for a total masterpiece of an LP

).

My recommendations for thorough albums on Vertigo would be Colosseum's 'Valentyne Suite' and Manfred Mann's 'Chapter Three' (much cheaper on US Polydor if you're not a pressing snob

).

**wms68** · 19-09-2005, 05:37 PM

Glad to hear it

Quite a bit of indulgence on some of those tunes - that's why the mixed comp is so appealing, you can get more that a handful of tunes on an album.

**Rich Hero** · 19-09-2005, 05:42 PM

Originally Posted by wms68

Glad to hear it

Quite a bit of indulgence on some of those tunes - that's why the mixed comp is so appealing, you can get more that a handful of tunes on an album.

The Manfred Mann is more of a straight rock selection (with jazz) while the Colosseum LP is definitely as much jazz as it is rock. So it really depends what you're into but, personally, when I first got hold of the 'Valentyne Suite' (only recently I'm embarassed to admit) we sat in Sermad's kitchen and listened to it from start to finish. And then played 'The Kettle' again.

**wms68** · 19-09-2005, 05:42 PM

Originally Posted by Rich Hero

Is it 'Infinity' with that woman moaning? I can't listen to that.

wsm68 - the other label that immediately springs to mind is Harvest (check out 'Mantlepiece' by the Battered Ornaments for a total masterpiece of an LP

).

My recommendations for thorough albums on Vertigo would be Colosseum's 'Valentyne Suite' and Manfred Mann's 'Chapter Three' (much cheaper on US Polydor if you're not a pressing snob

).

Nice one - will keep my eye open.

And yes, its Infinity Symbol where the woman is wailing/breathing/screaming and whatever else all over - it's halfway through the second lp, so rarely get that far in.

**wms68** · 19-09-2005, 06:07 PM

Was gonna exchange mine, but as other people had the same issue, decided to stick with it.

Would be good to get a glitch-free one though.

**platerpus** · 19-09-2005, 07:02 PM

Originally Posted by sermad

I would take some of those prices with a pinch of salt though. Ebay seems to differ!

i'd take ebay prices with an even larger pinch of salt than record collector.
in fact i'd take them with a wheel barrow full of salt.

**beat miner** · 05-11-2006, 10:31 PM

There's an excerpt of a track not listed on the cd between Nirvana - Modus Operandi and Aphrodite's Child. Can anyone identify it?

**wallace** · 06-11-2006, 12:22 AM

Yew lot DO realize wha yer awl talkin' aybit oan dis threid?
Tis callit "PROTO PROG", sons.

Tha's our main cornsarn at the Galactic Zoo site.

**wallace** · 06-11-2006, 12:59 AM

Originally Posted by wms68

Whilst on the prog rock front, what other labels standout in this era, and are worth checking out?

Fer Uk, try Harvest label. Muckle thaur.

Neon:
Indian summer
Centipede
Spring
Tonton Macoute
Running Man
Quintessence
Raw Material
Dando Shaft (folk -I gorts trade lp copy)
Shape of the Rain

Nepentha:
Zior
Earth & Fire
Pete Dello (Roger Dean coverart)
Dulcimer
Robin Lent

**Snoop God** · 06-11-2006, 10:34 AM

Originally Posted by Rich Hero

The Manfred Mann is more of a straight rock selection (with jazz) while the Colosseum LP is definitely as much jazz as it is rock. So it really depends what you're into but, personally, when I first got hold of the 'Valentyne Suite' (only recently I'm embarassed to admit) we sat in Sermad's kitchen and listened to it from start to finish. And then played 'The Kettle' again.

seconded on the colloseum recommendation i picked it up last month for a £5 and was well impressed with it.. mebbes bit jazzy for some folks taste tho!
i put one track on my hippies 5 mix on the xmas swap..

also on the harvest front i would reccommend edgar broughton band (the meat album and sing brother we sing are probbly my faves)

there are still a lot of turds on harvest and vertigo tho ..i got this one cheap last summer (anyone want this cos i dont??)
http://www.popsike.com/php/detaildat...mnr=4711581794

**The Divine One** · 06-11-2006, 01:49 PM

Originally Posted by eric-adams

yeah got them, very interesting reading the only thing i had heard of before was black sabbath.

Rod Stewart? Status Quo???

[sorry]

**Rich Hero** · 06-11-2006, 03:03 PM

Originally Posted by The Divine One

Rod Stewart? Status Quo???

[sorry]

Dire Straits? Razorlight???

[I'm not]

**eagerbeaver** · 06-11-2006, 03:55 PM

Originally Posted by Rich Hero

The Manfred Mann is more of a straight rock selection (with jazz) while the Colosseum LP is definitely as much jazz as it is rock. So it really depends what you're into but, personally, when I first got hold of the 'Valentyne Suite' (only recently I'm embarassed to admit) we sat in Sermad's kitchen and listened to it from start to finish. And then played 'The Kettle' again.

Colosseum's "Valentyne Suite" and their first LP (on Fontana) are ace Brit-jazz rocked up for a late-60s audience. Terrific playing throughout and not too much veering into noodly self-indulgence. "For THose Who About To Die" just cooks. I much prefer the instros to the vocals - IMO their singer was not their strongest point - although "Kettle" I agree is a goodie.

Lots of copies of "Valentyne" around BTW - from about a tenner upwards! Must have been one of the bigger Vertigo sellers after the Sabs.

**alanmck** · 06-11-2006, 04:30 PM

Originally Posted by eagerbeaver

Colosseum's "Valentyne Suite" and their first LP (on Fontana) are ace Brit-jazz rocked up for a late-60s audience. Terrific playing throughout and not too much veering into noodly self-indulgence. "For THose Who About To Die" just cooks. I much prefer the instros to the vocals - IMO their singer was not their strongest point - although "Kettle" I agree is a goodie.

Lots of copies of "Valentyne" around BTW - from about a tenner upwards! Must have been one of the bigger Vertigo sellers after the Sabs.

also came out on Bronze, should anyone be interested. and "elegy" was a big play-out tune on the acid jazz scene in the early 90s too.

the big man in colosseum was dick hextall-smith, a leading light of the brit jazz and avant garde for a long old time until he died (quite recently).

**pitch** · 06-11-2006, 04:39 PM

Originally Posted by alanmck

also came out on Bronze, should anyone be interested. and "elegy" was a big play-out tune on the acid jazz scene in the early 90s too.

the big man in colosseum was dick hextall-smith, a leading light of the brit jazz and avant garde for a long old time until he died (quite recently).

Always thought of Jon Hiseman as the main man behind Colloseum.... he went on form Colloseum II, and I think has recently reformed the original band with surviving members and Chris Farlowe??

**alanmck** · 06-11-2006, 04:51 PM

Originally Posted by pitch

Always thought of Jon Hiseman as the main man behind Colloseum.... he went on form Colloseum II, and I think has recently reformed the original band with surviving members and Chris Farlowe??

well, they both founded it, and DH-S was a big man. with many horns, often in a roland kirk kind of a way, amplified and multiple. and here's some background...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Colosseum_(band)

**ROCKPROF** · 06-11-2006, 05:09 PM

Colloseums third lp Daughter of Time is a bit patchy though.Theres footage of the band with Chris Farlowe not looking quite right and doing an air guitar solo from 1970 which is quite funny.
Vertigos eh? As mentioned before the prices have gone through the roof with that Jimmy Campbell lp going for over a 100 quid the other day!
Never heard the Vertigo comp but I can imagine he must of taken the Can-esque bit from the second Manfred lp,good stuff, shame about the chorus though.