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    Did anyone see this last night on BBC4? It was on late, so I'm assuming it was a repeat, but it was excellent. It my well have been based on the radio play that was broadcast earlier in the year on Delia Derbyshire (it also featured Peter Kember). Great interviews and quite a lot of detail about how they achieved the sounds they used.
    http://www.djhistory.com

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    Saw bits in between falling asleep, big b'day party the day before... my own - though actual date is tomorrow, but getting back to the docco, Yeah it was nice, though the graphics used to split it into episodes were diabolical, and almost tried to trivialise what these people were doing, they may have been nerds but they were still doing something new... Did manage to catch the variety of jingles for radio stations and how one composition in particular caused a barrage of complaints -  upon hearing it, I'm not surprised! Hilarious... but what was with the strange looking fella vision mixed into every interview shot? He's the doc maker? He looks way more of a strange nerdy type then the subjects, but really, did he have to be in every shot? - walter/wendy was pretty funny too.
    http://wakeupanddie.com
    http://weirdgearnyc.com
    http://makethingsmatter.com

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    • #3
      yeah, who was that fucker in the background with the clock set to five to eight? looked a bit like Wilf Lunn from Jigsaw to me, but why would he be there??? great stuff all the same...

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      • #4
        did anyone manage to tape it, as promised? would love to see it.

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        • #5
          For anyone that missed it (or who wants to watch it again), it's being repeated on BBC4 tomorrow at 8.30 pm and 3.30am (technically Wednesday I s'pose), and on Wednesday at 11pm.

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          • #6
            I have it saved on TiVo and can dub off copies on to VHS - if anybody wants one drop me an email.

            It might have just been me, but the whole programme scared the wits out of me. It just seemed a bit creepy.....

            It was the first time I've ever seen Pete Kember make any kind of sense (and not mention heroin), and other than my misguided sense of fear I thoroughly enjoyed it.

            Watching it straight after the BBC2 doc on Concorde, both projects have a kindred spirit in terms of representing a time when in Britain there was a sense that we had technological confidence - and proved that despite lack of budget or commercial success, that in this country we can produce things of great innovation and beauty. If only that sense of bravery to actually *try* something a bit 'off the wall' still existed today - can you imagine what the lumpen media would make of attempting either project today ?
            Matt Hero

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            • #7
              Slightly OT but 'Look Around You' has been out on DVD for a week or so! I'll try and nip to the shops and grab it. Hurrah for the Beeb!

              http://www.bbc.co.uk/comedy/lookaroundyou/
              www.thesoundlibrary.net <- Changed URL

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              • #8
                Originally posted by [b
                Quote[/b] (Matt Hero @ Oct. 20 2003,11:07)]I have it saved on TiVo and can dub off copies on to VHS - if anybody wants one drop me an email.

                It might have just been me, but the whole programme scared the wits out of me. It just seemed a bit creepy.....

                It was the first time I&#39;ve ever seen Pete Kember make any kind of sense (and not mention heroin), and other than my misguided sense of fear I thoroughly enjoyed it.

                Watching it straight after the BBC2 doc on Concorde, both projects have a kindred spirit in terms of representing a time when in Britain there was a sense that we had technological confidence - and proved that despite lack of budget or commercial success, that in this country we can produce things of great innovation and beauty. If only that sense of bravery to actually *try* something a bit &#39;off the wall&#39; still existed today - can you imagine what the lumpen media would make of attempting either project today ?
                Yes, my wife commented that the music was very creepy, especially since a lot of it was made ofr kids&#39; shows. Also, it was nice to see the legendary Bleep &amp; Booster make an appearance. When I was at junior school my nickname was Bleep (as in Bleep &amp; Brewster). How techno is that?

                Who is Peter Kember, though? I remember listening to the Delia Derbyshire documentary on R4 thinking, &#39;Who is this tosser?&#39; He sounds like a louche, posh druggy, and makes about as much sense as you&#39;d expect from one. Last night, I thought he was relatively lucid. Who were the other younger fans (I missed the first 15 minutes)? I noticed Adrian Uttley was credited at the end. Was he one?
                http://www.djhistory.com

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by [b
                  Quote[/b] (ladyboygrimsby @ Oct. 20 2003,11:21)]Who is Peter Kember, though? I remember listening to the Delia Derbyshire documentary on R4 thinking, &#39;Who is this tosser?&#39; He sounds like a louche, posh druggy, and makes about as much sense as you&#39;d expect from one. Last night, I thought he was relatively lucid.
                  peter kember was a founder member of spacemen 3, back in the late 80s / early 90s. he went on to form spectrum (&quot;forever alien&quot; is a good record) and e.a.r. (experimental audio research). he became friends with delia and (as you heard in the radio 4 play) re-awakened her interest in making electronic music.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by [b
                    Quote[/b] (ladyboygrimsby @ Oct. 20 2003,11:21)]Who is Peter Kember, though? I remember listening to the Delia Derbyshire documentary on R4 thinking, &#39;Who is this tosser?&#39; He sounds like a louche, posh druggy, and makes about as much sense as you&#39;d expect from one.
                    That&#39;s a pretty good description of him from recollection, and even though I still occasionally give my Spacemen 3 et al records a play, I&#39;m still reminded about what utter twats Jason Pierce &amp; Pete Kember were, and possible still are. Kate Radley on the other hand was *lovely*.
                    Matt Hero

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                    • #11
                      Aidrian Uttley came across like someone had played him a CD of the stuff for the first time ten minutes before the interview...

                      for what its worth those Spacemen 3 albums still get plenty o&#39;spins in my house. they were ace...check them all out...

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                      • #12
                        Agreed. The younger &#39;vox pops&#39; didn&#39;t exactly come across as particularly informed at all. Maybe they would&#39;ve been better off talking to Barry Seven off Add N to X, especially since all of his music sounds exactly like the spooky themes I heard throughout the programme, especially that mental one with the robot voices saying something like &quot;we are the summut or other&quot;
                        http://wakeupanddie.com
                        http://weirdgearnyc.com
                        http://makethingsmatter.com

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by [b
                          Quote[/b] (Nick Cope @ Oct. 20 2003,12:03)]especially that mental one with the robot voices saying something like &quot;we are the summut or other&quot;
                          &#39;Ziwzih Ziwzih 00-00-00&#39; - given that I was already spooked out by the programme, that wasn&#39;t probably the best thing to go and play in tribute off the &#39;BBC Radiophonic Music&#39; LP before I went to bed. I had all sorts of strange dreams involving robots....
                          Matt Hero

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by [b
                            Quote[/b] (Nick Cope @ Oct. 20 2003,12:03)]especially that mental one with the robot voices saying something like &quot;we are the summut or other&quot;
                            Now, if that&#39;s not a great name for a tune, I don&#39;t know what is.
                            http://www.djhistory.com

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by [b
                              Quote[/b] ]for what its worth those Spacemen 3 albums still get plenty o&#39;spins in my house. they were ace...check them all out...
                              Chris - thanks for introducing me to &quot;Ecstasy In Slow Motion&quot; about a decade ago ... still expands my mind to this day... woefully short at just 10 minutes long...



                              ( saying that, Spaceman 3 at Reading &#39;89 was one of the more woeful &quot;live&quot; performances I&#39;ve seen.... sat down for 90 mins - not me&#33; the band &#33;&#33; )

                              Did you remember to get a scart lead and tape the docu last night ?? you bloody better have chummy &#33;&#33;

                              If you're looking for a pristine copy then this isn't the one for you. The vinyl looks like someone has polished their brickwork with it and the label has been ruined by some fool with a pen.

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