Brillo dec 8th, salmon and compasses

[theeman]

Who's coming down to Brillo next Monday then?

There will be a couple of boxes of LSD001 and LSD002 singles at 4 quid a pop for anyone who wants one. Thanks to all of you who've supported us - we've had some great reviews recently! hope to see you there...

[Nick Cope]

"Just 700 copies available"

Why the odd number?

[Matt Hero]

I'll be there with my pennies saved up for LSD002. Actually, I've got money (and a record) for and some money for Bongolia too. I'll try and remember this time !

So, Christmas records then ? I'll be bringing along my Dali Caldis (Syd Dale) LP.

[chrisvulture]

Quote[/b] (Nick Cope @ Dec. 02 2003,09:36)]"Just 700 copies available"

Why the odd number?

well Nick, its a tricky equation to fathom...500 would be easier to sell...but we wouldnt break even due to the suprisingly higher production costs involved in making fewer units...dunno how jazzman manages it...press 1000 and there would be boxes of em under the bed for ever, and again you wouldnt break even...pretty hard to judge.

[theeman]

my Xmas record will be a Cyril Ornadel '4 seasons' record.

and Nick, the simple reason for choosing 700 is because it's more than 500 and less than 1000, and everyone likes the number 7, possibly because it's lovely and curvy.

[bongolia]

not as curvy as 8 by a long way...

[Nick Cope]

888 is really curvy

[Matt Hero]

Quote[/b] (Nick Cope @ Dec. 02 2003,11:05)]888 is really curvy

...as is 666 of course. The devil has got all the good numbers.

[Blighty]

Quote[/b] (chrisvulture @ Dec. 02 2003,09:54)]

Quote[/b] (Nick Cope @ Dec. 02 2003,09:36)]"Just 700 copies available"

Why the odd number?

well Nick, its a tricky equation to fathom...500 would be easier to sell...but we wouldnt break even due to the suprisingly higher production costs involved in making fewer units...dunno how jazzman manages it...press 1000 and there would be boxes of em under the bed for ever, and again you wouldnt break even...pretty hard to judge.

Is this because you have to pay to license the tracks too? I'm planning to do runs of 500 and I'll be using the same pressing plant you guys are using and I'm kinda hoping to break even.

[theeman]

Quote[/b] (Blighty @ Dec. 02 2003,11:38)]Is this because you have to pay to license the tracks too? I'm planning to do runs of 500 and I'll be using the same pressing plant you guys are using and I'm kinda hoping to break even.

yes. you'll find that if you order just over 500, there's a big drop in unit price. royalties, production, mastering etc cost us practically as much as pressing the 45s.

also don't forget import duty if you're pressing 45s abroad.

[Sie Vulture]

I think when decided the numbers you are gonna press, you've got to have some indication of how much you've got to pay up-front in terms of licences - then you can kinda gauge how many you want to press... when you've got various licencing houses and the MCPS to talk to, it can get a bit complicated.

Blighty - if you use the pressing plant in CZ, remember you'll have an import charge to pay to the likes of TNT once you received the records. I have heard reports that the geezer on your doorstep will sometimes stay there until you pay this not insignificant charge, but more likely you'll get a bill on the doormat one morning. One unexpected cost that Sie "the honest accountant" wasn't expecting...

[Sie Vulture]

All please not the synergy of replies between London and the North East...



Edmundo my boy - no one can accuse us of not singing from the same hymn sheet mate !!

   

[eclipsechaser]

seeming I've been woefully absent I'll try and make it this monday.

[Blighty]

Cheers for the info guys. Are you happy with GZ apart from the hidden import charges? The quality of the first single was spot on (just ordered the second one). I don't have any licensing or mastering costs so it's just the pressing side of things that I'm thinking about at the minute.

[chrisvulture]

The quality from GZ is spot on-one issue with them is that they have a high staff turnover, so you end up speaking to three different contacts during one job, and they make promises about delivery dates that they cant keep...budget for at least 6 weeks production time, but in terms of cost they are pretty unbeatable, so some things you have to put up with.