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    I guy in America is about to post over some needles I bought. He's offering me quotes that insure the needles for the amount I paid for 'em, $175.

    Now if he does that, does that mean I can get charged duty because the packaged has been valued in order to be insured? Or is the documentation not visible to customs...

    I've never had an insured package from the States before, so I have no idea.
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  • #2
    Originally posted by [b
    Quote[/b] (Nick Cope @ July 04 2004,16:29)]Now if he does that, does that mean I can get charged duty because the packaged has been valued in order to be insured? Or is the documentation not visible to customs...
    I don't know about duties on your end but if he's insuring a package for $175 then the value will definitely be visible on the customs form---it has to be in case the package is lost or damaged, that way he can get his money back (and you too).

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    • #3
      Are you definitely sure about this?
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      • #4
        Originally posted by [b
        Quote[/b] (Nick Cope @ July 05 2004,00:05)]Are you definitely sure about this?
        i'm fairly positive. i'm sure it's the same way with the Royal Mail, cost of insurance is determined by the value of the item being sent. i've sent several insured packages overseas and each time I had to list the value of the item I was sending (in the event the package was lost, stolen or damaged). I don't think there's anyway around this unless you have it sent uninsured, in which case he can simply lie about the value. surely someone else can back me up on this.

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        • #5
          I'm pretty certain mech1 is right on this - the only way to avoid having the value visible to customs is to either send it by standard (uninsured) mail & take the chance, or to understate the actual value on your insurance slips. Not sure how it works on US to UK packages, but on UK to US ones there is the basic cover of up to (I think) 10 times face value of postage paid on uninsured parcels: if it works the other way round, that would recoup you about $100 if cover postage is $10, and so on, but you might need to check this. If customs fees are going to be added, it could offer an option, but bear in mind that I've been told by the Royal Mail that only the SENDER can pursue the claim, so (a) you'd need to know your seller was prepared to do the paperwork in the event of an item going astray and (b) trust him/her to pass any compensation on to you. Suppose it depends, either way, if you're feeling lucky, or want to pay more (in insurance, and possible customs tax) for peace of mind.
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          • #6
            Nick,

            this is an age old problem I face all the time.

            Do you take the chance by not identifying the value of the pacakge and so avoid any interference from customs, or give up the value for the insurance come back but open yourself up to prying eyes and shifty fingers at the post offices either end of the parcel's journey [a lot scarier than customs officials, the mailroom people will nick anything and everything!]

            I have actually been told by one of the more trusty people at my local P.O that you should NEVER mark your package as fragile or EVER show the parcel's real value or it will most definitely get nicked!

            Now, how you gonna argue with that if that IS the royal mail telling you this?

            It's a risk either way but for information purposes you can pick up the leaflet "Your parcel, Our parcel" from any P.O for handling and insurance fees, etc...

            One thing for sure is what mech1 said, you want insurance to the value of X, it has to go on the the pacakge. No way out of this, otherwise you cannot claim back the amount asked for!
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            • #7
              I'm going with Andy's advice on this - unmarked, with low value declaration. I'm far more worried about the P.O. thieves than anything else.
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              • #8
                Shit!

                Now I'm trying to think of what the seller should describe the items as: if he puts Shure White Lable cartridges in orginal aluminium cases, they'll get nicked for sure. Trying to think of something else that could be described as, something similar in size and weight...
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                • #9
                  Mofo's have had so much money from me this year and a few rare euro psych bombs. Somebody is having a right royal laugh at me, or there is a secret underground psych funk nutter working in the basement of some P.O we should all know about!

                  Either way, you just cannot trust the Royal Mail and sending / receiving anything of significant value from the states always carries a risk IMO.
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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by [b
                    Quote[/b] (Nick Cope @ July 05 2004,13:13)]Shit!

                    Now I'm trying to think of what the seller should describe the items as: if he puts Shure White Lable cartridges in orginal aluminium cases, they'll get nicked for sure. Trying to think of something else that could be described as, something similar in size and weight...
                    Why not just go for something nondescript like "electronic components"?
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                    • #11
                      Or maybe misc? I thought about components - sounds a bit omnious considering all the bombs flying around at the mo...!
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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by [b
                        Quote[/b] (son of stan @ July 05 2004,13:25)]Why not just go for something nondescript like "electronic components"?
                        "Self arming trigger" or somesuch sounds suitably bland.  

                        Mount Pleasant seem to have been particularly active this year - plenty of my parcels have been ridiculously delayed and eventually turned up stamped that they've been 'investigated by Customs'. I've never asked for anything to be insured, and I rarely send cash by registered post and the only thing (touch wood) that's so far gone missing is an M.O. sent by Western Union. Howvever, even though I've asked them nicely, Dusty Groove always stated the true value on the parcel and I always got burnt by Customs when they did. So I don't buy from them anywhere. Anyway, to sum up this boring ramble, I also go with the 'please write a nominal value only on the parcel' approach and the few problems with the post I've had have never been down to this.
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                        • #13
                          You can insure something for say £100 but mark its value £10 on the customs slip. I've never had anyone come back and say they paid customs duty on anything nor have I paid customs when somethings come through this way.

                          In the uk the insurance amount goes on one slip (The one you fill in with the persons address) and the custom amount slaps on the front as a sticker.

                          I'm not saying its 100% mind.



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