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    a time ago i was spinning records in a small club.. a young hip-hop fan came up to me and told me that my dj-skillz are absolutely wack because i'm not doing scratchs and stuff like that. i told him: "hey mate i'm spinning just some 45stuff and thats not really the best recordsize for doing dj-battle action"...he:"if you're real you will do tricks also with 45s!"...
    o.k., i'm not dj shadow or cut chemist but i think my dj-skillz are well!
    what do you think?.should a funk dj have scratch skillz?
    can you explain to me what this word means?

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    Yeah, bust up them expensive 45s... No seriously, let's trash 'em all so we can try to impress some 17yr old kid! Fuck him.

    I leave the 45 elbow scratch to the highly skilled shadows of the world - though I do like to beat match 45s and mix on the drops etc - that's as far as you can go without killing the things. However, all hip hop must be mixed in some way, that is a law that must not be broken...
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    • #3
      agree with Nick here, beatmatching is as far as you should go with your funk 45s - its about the music not how you change it - beatmatching done well can make a beautiful flow

      with your northern 45s however you can go really wild - leave 4 or 5 seconds between the tracks - mumble incoherently into the mic - let the needle jump off the run-out groove and sctatch across the label....
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      • #4
        Oh God, I hope not.

        I realise that this is sacrilege but scratching nowadays always seems a bit naff to me. It&#39;s had it&#39;s day. Gimmicky, 1980s, show off shite. Let&#39;s move on, eh?

        Other than that, I really like it&#33;
        Endless Tripe

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        • #5
          Move on to what? Playing old records?

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          • #6
            Well, I tend to the bemused observation that current dance music long ago entered its &#39;arena rock circa 1975&#39; phase: quadruple concept albums, big effects-heavy shows, drug addled pretensions...it&#39;s all there&#33; Which I guess would make show-offish &#39;DJ skillz&#39; to dance music what the 35 minute axe/drum/organ solo was to Rock circa 1975 (and would make your critic the equivalent of the person I once distinctly remember saying James Brown&#39;s guitarist wasn&#39;t up to much because it was just the one riff played over &amp; over all the time...not like Steve Vai, who could REALLY play).

            What goes around...
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            • #7
              Originally posted by [b
              Quote[/b] (deeno @ Sep. 29 2004,18:38)]a time ago i was spinning records in a small club.. a young hip-hop fan came up to me and told me that my dj-skillz are absolutely wack because i&#39;m not doing scratchs and stuff like that. i told him: &quot;hey mate i&#39;m spinning just some 45stuff and thats not really the best recordsize for doing dj-battle action&quot;...he:&quot;if you&#39;re real you will do tricks also with 45s&#33;&quot;...
              o.k., i&#39;m not dj shadow or cut chemist but i think my dj-skillz are well&#33;
              what do you think?.should a funk dj have scratch skillz?
              Absolutely fuckin&#39; not&#33;&#33; Whilst playing funk, at any rate.

              If you mix it up with hiphop, then the playing field changes a tad.

              I&#39;m a firm believer that the 2.5 minutes your average funk track is in length, should be heard from start to practical finish.

              Did you have the dancefloor moving? I&#39;m sure you did. Job done. I actually think it&#39;s not only &#39;wack&#39; to be scratching all over somebody elses art, I think it detracts from the purpose of playing funk in the first place.

              Sure Shadow, Chemist and Nu-mark do their thing on stage and it&#39;s great what they do - but it&#39;s a spectator sport.

              Anybody wants to play funk in my club, keep it simple, keep it focussed, watch for your tempos and concentrate on your selection. That&#39;s the real skill in getting a club moving. Not the fact that you can cue up a &#39;frrrrrressssh&#39; stab and inanely &#39;crab&#39;, &#39;tear&#39; and &#39;flare&#39; all over a Reginald Milton-esque groove.

              The yoof of today, eh    &#33;

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              • #8
                Originally posted by [b
                Quote[/b] (Blighty @ Sep. 30 2004,01:01)]Move on to what? Playing old records?
                Yeah you&#39;re absolutely right. Sorry about that. One of my dopier moments...
                Endless Tripe

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by [b
                  Quote[/b] (wayne @ Sep. 30 2004,01:32)]James Brown&#39;s guitarist wasn&#39;t up to much because it was just the one riff played over &amp; over all the time...
                  Where was it I read that James&#39;s audition consisted of asking the guitarist to play one chord. And then to leave him to it for thirty minutes*. If he could do it without noodling or trying to switch things up he had a chance of getting hired.

                  (*I may be exaggerating a little. Hell, I may have made the entire thing up. ).
                  You freeking scientologists are all the same, quible, dribble and then demand ice creams. Ohhhhhhhhhhh.

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                  • #10
                    I don&#39;t really think what a DJ &quot;should&quot; be able to do ought to come into consideration myself... a set can be excellent for various reasons which may or may not include the technical ability / method / creativity with which the songs are mixed.

                    (Though basic competence is nice).
                    *

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by [b
                      Quote[/b] (formigo @ Sep. 30 2004,11:05)](Though basic competence is nice).
                      Damn&#33;

                      That puts an end to my (already limited) DJ career
                      He also contributed songs for the Jim Henson movie vehicle 'Muppets From Space'.

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by [b
                        Quote[/b] (Hadrian Elephant @ Sep. 30 2004,12:22)]
                        Originally posted by [b
                        Quote[/b] (formigo @ Sep. 30 2004,11:05)](Though basic competence is nice).
                        Damn&#33;

                        That puts an end to my (already limited) DJ career  
                        I&#39;m just mean stuff like... not accidentally picking up the tonearm on the record that&#39;s playing.

                        Well, more than say once a month.

                        Not including if you&#39;re really, really drunk. Or somewhat drunk.

                        ...oh, and times when you thinking &quot;damn I really want to hear the break and it&#39;s still two minutes away&quot;...
                        *

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by [b
                          Quote[/b] (formigo @ Sep. 30 2004,12:41)]I&#39;m just mean stuff like... not accidentally picking up the tonearm on the record that&#39;s playing.

                          Well, more than say once a month.


                          That and doing a perfect mix and then taking off the record that is playing.

                          Having your headphones on and not noticing a recording skipping for about 30 seconds...

                          oh boy.
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                          • #14
                            ....or walking away from the decks with headphones still around your neck and either dragging the mixer to the floor, or strangling yourself with the cable.
                            Matt Hero

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by [b
                              Quote[/b] (formigo @ Sep. 30 2004,12:41)]not accidentally picking up the tonearm on the record that&#39;s playing
                              and then after realising what you&#39;ve done, dropping it back onto the record hoping no-one will notice (without adjusting a fader)..

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