I recently got myself in a fairly undignified and clearly totally pointless little row on Mixcloud after a bad mood led me to post a comment on a mix along the lines of posting a mix without a track listing is essentially disrespectful to the musicians whose work is featured on the mix.
Now, rather than continue the row with the folk concerned, who clearly weren't going to shift their position, I thought I'd bring my thoughts here instead, what with VG+ being, among many other things, a home of relatively saner and measured debate about these things.
The more I've thought about it, the more mixes with no tracklistings have started to annoy the hell out of me.
In essence, if a musician has made a record, it's because they've wanted to be heard - and if you've found that song somehow and like it, and want others to hear it, it seems to me that the least you could do is say what it is so that folk know the name of the artist, can maybe track it down for themselves, buy a copy, maybe even find and interview the artist, etc.
Keeping it all secret makes it m ore about you than about the music you're supposedly touting, which seems wrong.
The response I got to my comment was predictably pissed-off (and hey, for all I know, may have been from someone who also posts here. If so, please learn to use THEIR and THERE properly, by the way
):
The ultimate disrespect to an artist is to make the assumption that in the day when everybody is a Dj that becouse we add tracklists people will run out and purchase there music! Num 2 is we spend years digging hunting trading selling sharing so when we take time to put a mix out for free after so much effort and respect paid to the game! The least someone could say is I really like your mixes and can I have a tracklist? We have always been honest and shared what little we know with whoever wants to know! I just don't want to hear some one who has read a tracklist downloaded a song or ripped it more like,with no effort work and just go about there day? Where is the respect in that..in fact why don't we give our records away after we have done a mix?? Sharing is about interactivity,bit like record digging! Its a shame you couldn't just ask at you wanted to know??
I dunno.
Maybe I'm just out of touch / date.
Maybe the cult of the digger / DJ has become so sacred that it's the right - or even prerogative - of the 'finder' of the tune (a concept that is basically bullshit, really, as everything has been heard and dug by someone somewhere before, hasn't it) to cover up and use this find to big one's own digging prowess up.
If so, it still strikes me as arsey.
And I don't like it.
What do you reckon?
Now, rather than continue the row with the folk concerned, who clearly weren't going to shift their position, I thought I'd bring my thoughts here instead, what with VG+ being, among many other things, a home of relatively saner and measured debate about these things.
The more I've thought about it, the more mixes with no tracklistings have started to annoy the hell out of me.
In essence, if a musician has made a record, it's because they've wanted to be heard - and if you've found that song somehow and like it, and want others to hear it, it seems to me that the least you could do is say what it is so that folk know the name of the artist, can maybe track it down for themselves, buy a copy, maybe even find and interview the artist, etc.
Keeping it all secret makes it m ore about you than about the music you're supposedly touting, which seems wrong.
The response I got to my comment was predictably pissed-off (and hey, for all I know, may have been from someone who also posts here. If so, please learn to use THEIR and THERE properly, by the way

The ultimate disrespect to an artist is to make the assumption that in the day when everybody is a Dj that becouse we add tracklists people will run out and purchase there music! Num 2 is we spend years digging hunting trading selling sharing so when we take time to put a mix out for free after so much effort and respect paid to the game! The least someone could say is I really like your mixes and can I have a tracklist? We have always been honest and shared what little we know with whoever wants to know! I just don't want to hear some one who has read a tracklist downloaded a song or ripped it more like,with no effort work and just go about there day? Where is the respect in that..in fact why don't we give our records away after we have done a mix?? Sharing is about interactivity,bit like record digging! Its a shame you couldn't just ask at you wanted to know??
I dunno.
Maybe I'm just out of touch / date.
Maybe the cult of the digger / DJ has become so sacred that it's the right - or even prerogative - of the 'finder' of the tune (a concept that is basically bullshit, really, as everything has been heard and dug by someone somewhere before, hasn't it) to cover up and use this find to big one's own digging prowess up.
If so, it still strikes me as arsey.
And I don't like it.
What do you reckon?
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