On line vinyl selling question #346239 France & Italy

[someblokecalledfuz]

To all of you who sell vinyl online...

How do you feel about getting orders from France & Italy? I read multiple horror stories over on Waxidermy about rip off mercahnts and idiots as well as general all round "grueling" behaviour from buyers from these countries... I notice many sellers stating that they won't sell to Fr & It as well, The Russian Federation also seems to get a bad press from time to time.

But surely they can't all be con merchants and scammers... what's the boards experience with buyers from these countries?

What with Mark's recent hassles, and like Waxidermy does, should we have a list of Buyers to avoid / blacklist?

[Tsundoku]

Why not just copy the Waxi lists into your own blocked bidders thingy?

I think the answer might also be "don't sell boogie".

[pencilface]

I've never had any problems. Sell to france regularly, not so much Italy though i guess...

[Boi Bach o Bethel]

Never had any problems with French sellers. Use CDANDLP regularly and get 5 star service every time (hope I don't jinx that) Same with Italian sellers, although I do check their feedback a bit more.

ironically the only trouble i've had recently is from 2 UK sellers from Discogs. (resolved by Paypal though)

[The Divine One]

Never had any problems with French sellers.

Aye, but the question was French and Italian customers wasn't it? I think the problem is the Italian postal service, although I've not had any problems lately (touch wood). I would also say Russia is a rapidly expanding market, never had any problems. Selling minty UK 1st press Mojo classics nearly always seem to end up heading to Russia, often with crazy price tags!

[someblokecalledfuz]

Never had any problems with French sellers. Use CDANDLP regularly and get 5 star service every time (hope I don't jinx that) Same with Italian sellers, although I do check their feedback a bit more.

ironically the only trouble i've had recently is from 2 UK sellers from Discogs. (resolved by Paypal though)

*Edit* beaten to the point...

It's not the sellers I'm interested about... it's the buyers...

[BeatsDeluxe]

I sell to France and Italy regularly, with no more issues than to anywhere else. Russia is the only place that's been troubles for the last couple of years.

[emperor tomato ketchup]

I seem to sell a lot to all kinds of Europeans. For UK sellers my postage is too high so it is only really obscure things I sell there, or really really cheap stuff I want to get shot of. If its over €30 I insist on registered. If the odd €5 CD goes missing then I can handle losing €8 to €10 as its very rare. I've almost got the CD collection down to the amount to fit on the shelves.

The Italians love me and I love them. Probably sold over two dozen cheap bits to them with no problem. The only Italian who said something went missing was an expensive CD (reissue of a disco album by a well known Hungarian porn star) but he stopped asking when I pointed out that according to the tracking it had been delivered.

I've sold a few things to Russians and (touch wood) they've all arrived uninsured. Though I'm still waiting to hear about a €26 jazz lp that hadn't arrived after two weeks. But as this was in January and he's in the far end of Siberia. The only place thats consistently given trouble is a well known californian city.

[Plainstone]

I think the answer might also be "don't sell boogie".

Never had any problems with French sellers. Use CDANDLP regularly and get 5 star service every time

I think the problem is the Italian postal service

Anything remotely boogie-related gets sent registered.

The only problem I ever had from Italy was years ago when I was selling a record on ebay which the buyer bought and paid for and then (before I had even shipped it!) he listed it on ebay.it using my own pics and for three times what I had sold it to him for.

[SirSlim]

I think the problem is the Italian postal service, although I've not had any problems lately (touch wood).

Back in the dark days of the late 70s I had registered/express letters sent from Italy go "missing" - those grumpy ladies in the village post office probably binned them before they even reached the sack...

Things are better now - I've posted large toys and last year an empty wine box full of my favourite coffee back to the UK without any problems. Records, however always travel with me on the plane.

[Tinhat Toyboy]

No problems with France and Italy. No problems with Russia. Can't say the same for the former Russian republics. International Signed For for these without fail.

[korova]

No problems with France and Italy, but had problems with Spain, Russia and....... England lately. Everything I now send via recorded delivery, I've seen a drop off in bids and sales but saved a load of hassle. All the issues have been about late or non delivery and which ultimately turn up. And I get marked down on the DSR for delivery even when I post the day after auction end. Ebay needs to bring back leaving negative feedback for buyers.

[No, LordNo]

I've never had any problems.

Both countries have dysfunctional postal systems. I've had to tell buyers to chill and be patient, but everything has always arrived in the end..

[mr sayers]

I've never had any problem selling to France or Italy....If I ever get a buyer from either of these countries I give them two options for postage, one signed for and one for regular. I tell them i would prefer if they went for signed for, and if they go for regular and it goes missing they've got no come back with me.

[e3sa934]

I've never had any problem selling to France or Italy....If I ever get a buyer from either of these countries I give them two options for postage, one signed for and one for regular. I tell them i would prefer if they went for signed for, and if they go for regular and it goes missing they've got no come back with me.

This. I'll also look at feedback first, and if it's less than squeaky clean, automatically go for international signed-for.