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  • First UK breakbeat LP?

    Anyone? My surface understanding is the mysterious (ish) Octopus breakbeat LPs appeared in the US in the early 80s followed by the Ultimate Breaks and Beats series from 1986.

    Therefore the US win as breakbeat pioneers ( hurrah!) Paul Winley's break LPs followed I think? (US again!)

    Does anyone here know the title/s of the first ever UK / British-produced breakbeat LPs?
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  • #3
    Originally posted by Ian Townsend View Post
    Therefore the US win as breakbeat pioneers ( hurrah!) Paul Winley's break LPs followed I think? (US again!)
    Correction: Paul Winley's Super Disco Brakes preceded the Octopus breaks. (US still wins)

    Thank you Snoop! Simon Harris looks to be a strong contender....Morgan Khan also a contender with Break Beats Vol.1 the same year.
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    • #4
      Originally posted by Ian Townsend View Post
      Thank you Snoop! Simon Harris looks to be a strong contender....Morgan Khan also a contender with Break Beats Vol.1 the same year.
      When did Norman Cook put his breaks records out? I have a feeling they were a few years later.
      Last edited by Rich Hero; 18-09-2014, 01:03 PM.
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      • #5
        Originally posted by Ian Townsend View Post
        Correction: Paul Winley's Super Disco Brakes preceded the Octopus breaks. (US still wins)
        Yes, thought they were a lot earlier than '86.

        Whats the distinction though? Octopus Breaks / Super Disco Brakes etc were the full length tunes for DJ's to cut up - the Harris/Khan LP's are purpose made for those LP's, DJ tools business innit. So different beasts?

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        • #6
          Originally posted by bennyboy View Post
          So different beasts?
          Then again, Louis Flores edited some of the tracks on UBB (although not in the DJ tools sense) so that blurs the line.
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          • #7
            not as early as the simon harris LP's but a great breaks LP on warrior records : http://www.discogs.com/artist/44584-...nknown-DJs-The

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            • #8
              Originally posted by bennyboy View Post
              Yes, thought they were a lot earlier than '86.

              Whats the distinction though? Octopus Breaks / Super Disco Brakes etc were the full length tunes for DJ's to cut up - the Harris/Khan LP's are purpose made for those LP's, DJ tools business innit. So different beasts?
              Good point. Super Disco Brakes was 1979 so possibly the earliest comp of tracks used by hip hop DJs.

              Originally posted by Rich Hero View Post
              Then again, Louis Flores edited some of the tracks on UBB (although not in the DJ tools sense) so that blurs the line.
              And another good point.
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              • #9
                Coming up blank thinking of any UBB style comps released in the UK from that early period Ian. I did own the Simon Harris and Warrior LP's at the time (I guess they became known as DJ battle tool LP's) but not actual UBB style comps which I would have most certainly bought, well from around 1990 at least.

                I did buy The Sound Of Funk comps (http://www.discogs.com/Various-The-S...elease/1299421) in 1992 but these were obviously funk comps and by default had breaks.
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                • #10
                  http://www.discogs.com/Various-Urban...release/542785

                  Maybe not strictly break related, but went beyond the rare groove thing, too. Loads of DJs were cutting and scratching with the Urban reissues.
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                  • #11
                    Originally posted by babycart View Post
                    http://www.discogs.com/Various-Urban...release/542785

                    Maybe not strictly break related, but went beyond the rare groove thing, too. Loads of DJs were cutting and scratching with the Urban reissues.
                    Thanks! I'll bet a Whosampled check reveals all those tracks were used.
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                    • #12
                      Originally posted by Ian Townsend View Post
                      Thanks! I'll bet a Whosampled check reveals all those tracks were used.
                      Simon Harris remixes and bonus beats were all over those Urban releases, too.
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                      • #13
                        Originally posted by babycart View Post
                        http://www.discogs.com/Various-Urban...release/542785

                        Maybe not strictly break related, but went beyond the rare groove thing, too. Loads of DJs were cutting and scratching with the Urban reissues.
                        I mentioned this to Nige as a contender last night, not strictly a break beat comp, but I pretty much bought it under that guise I guess!
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                        • #14
                          Originally posted by babycart View Post
                          http://www.discogs.com/Various-Urban...release/542785

                          Maybe not strictly break related, but went beyond the rare groove thing, too. Loads of DJs were cutting and scratching with the Urban reissues.
                          Originally posted by Ian Townsend View Post
                          Thanks! I'll bet a Whosampled check reveals all those tracks were used.
                          likewise the "Rare!" comp series that came out the same year (1987)... though less breakbeaty and more "not very rare if you knew where to look" groove focused...

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                          • #15
                            Originally posted by Ian Townsend View Post
                            Thanks! I'll bet a Whosampled check reveals all those tracks were used.
                            But who followed who... Eric B. and Rakim put 'I Know You Got Soul' out in '87 so, if they weren't already aware of Bobby Byrd, they would have heard it from UBB in '86 rather than Urban Classics. I take it you're making a distinction between break compilations that inspired samples as opposed to those that compiled samples that had already been used or were known?
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