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    Go to almost any record in my Expedit and I´ll be able to tell you where and roughly when I bought it. Not precisely; it´ll be "Clones of Dr Funkenstein some place upstairs in Melton Mowbray in the mid-80s", "Jorge Ben in a porn shop in Sunderland" or "Hymns a Swinging in a Workington chazza", but it still seems amazing that I can retain several hundred vivid recollections going back over decades.

    I don´t think I´m alone in this. I´m wondering if this mental storehousing might be another strong reason for collecting in the first place, and whether it´s the result of some evolutionary mapping instinct,
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    Originally posted by babycart View Post
    Go to almost any record in my Expedit and I´ll be able to tell you where and roughly when I bought it. Not precisely; it´ll be "Clones of Dr Funkenstein some place upstairs in Melton Mowbray in the mid-80s", "Jorge Ben in a porn shop in Sunderland" or "Hymns a Swinging in a Workington chazza", but it still seems amazing that I can retain several hundred vivid recollections going back over decades.

    I don´t think I´m alone in this. I´m wondering if this mental storehousing might be another strong reason for collecting in the first place, and whether it´s the result of some evolutionary mapping instinct,
    Confirmed.

    Even worse is recalling exactly when/where you failed to pick up a record that you have since kicked yourself for not buying at the time and have never seen since.

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    • #3
      Very much the case for most of my collection but some I could swear I have seen for the very first time.

      What I find really amazing is that when I do my Comics/ Illustrations I like to watch some documentaries/ Series/ audiobooks in the background and when I look through my old stuff I find that I remember whatever I was consuming at the time. I guess this has to do with muscle memory or something. I dont know. Brains are weird.
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      • #4
        i find this as well. most i can remember price, where i got them, why i got them, how long i had been looking for them.
        ebay purchases are very different, a few i dont remember buying, why i bought them, what i paid for them, plus a lot of these dont stay in the collection for long.
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        • #5
          Originally posted by Cacapo View Post
          Very much the case for most of my collection but some I could swear I have seen for the very first time.
          Exactly. I'm currently packing for a house move and finding a few sources of bafflement in the racks.

          Originally posted by Paul-K View Post
          ebay purchases are very different, a few i dont remember buying, why i bought them, what i paid for them, plus a lot of these dont stay in the collection for long.
          This is a bit like some of the teaching theory where "learning by doing" ensures long-term retention of knowledge, isn't it? You went out and got your hands dirty and so you remember the experience more than just a mouse click.
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          • #6
            Just this very lunchtime I was boring...er, "regaling" someone with the tale of buying "Transdance" by Night Moves for 20p from the Camden branch of MVE in 1982. I could also remember the other records which flanked it (multiple sleeveless copies of the Anti Nowhere League's "We Are The League" and some Crass albums).
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            • #7
              Originally posted by Plainstone View Post
              Exactly. I'm currently packing for a house move and finding a few sources of bafflement in the racks.



              This is a bit like some of the teaching theory where "learning by doing" ensures long-term retention of knowledge, isn't it? You went out and got your hands dirty and so you remember the experience more than just a mouse click.
              i think it´s just as much to do with monkeys and fruit. When a monkey finds a source of fruit it creates a mind map making it remember how to go back there in future. But when a monkey doesn´t find any fruit (e.g the times I once went digging in Rotherham and Wetherby) it forgets the experience almost completely.
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              • #8
                Originally posted by babycart View Post
                i think it´s just as much to do with monkeys and fruit. When a monkey finds a source of fruit it creates a mind map making it remember how to go back there in future. But when a monkey doesn´t find any fruit (e.g the times I once went digging in Rotherham and Wetherby) it forgets the experience almost completely.
                That must be it, although how do you account for Cacapo's Partial Fruit Amnesia (which I too am partial to bouts of)?
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                • #9
                  Originally posted by babycart View Post
                  I don´t think I´m alone in this. I´m wondering if this mental storehousing might be another strong reason for collecting in the first place, and whether it´s the result of some evolutionary mapping instinct,
                  I think this is more like a case of flashbulb memory, specific detailed memory of an individual event triggered by "a high level of surprise, a high level of consequentiality, and perhaps emotional arousal." You remember where you were and what you were doing at the time.

                  Mapping is - I would guess - more like motor memory, where individual events get abstracted away and you learn the general patterns. As you get more practice then you don't even notice the details of what you are doing, like driving a car and not having to consciously think about the route home.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Sonovox View Post
                    specific detailed memory of an individual event triggered by "a high level of surprise, a high level of consequentiality, and perhaps emotional arousal."
                    Any Aston Villa fans in the house tonight?
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                    • #11
                      Related to this topic .. I am currently listening to my copy of God Bless The Red Krayola ... which I bought just before performing Best Man duties at a friend's wedding in Cardiff in the early 90s.

                      Anyone know what shop it would have been? Pretty sure it was up on the second floor of a building with other shops near the castle
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                      • #12
                        I remember exactly where I bought this 45... Off ebay, a few years ago.
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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by Plainstone View Post
                          Related to this topic .. I am currently listening to my copy of God Bless The Red Krayola ... which I bought just before performing Best Man duties at a friend's wedding in Cardiff in the early 90s.

                          Anyone know what shop it would have been? Pretty sure it was up on the second floor of a building with other shops near the castle
                          Could have been Spilliers - I think it;s called or perhaps in the indoor Victorian market place...
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                          • #14
                            I think it's simple: it's really important to you, but it happens in a fairly stable emotional state, so you are able to properly log the facts. This explains why I remember every detail of my wedding reception, but very little of the ceremony (too nervous, excited, apprehensive). There's a guy at work who once told me every type of TV he - and his parents - had ever owned going back to 1985 (the first one he took notice of). I was important to him, so he took note.
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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by someblokecalledfuz View Post
                              Could have been Spilliers - I think it;s called or perhaps in the indoor Victorian market place...
                              Kelly's Records on the balcony of the market?
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