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    Do people generally think the shift to Discogs and BINs equates to a loss of bargains? I haven't bid on an auction for ages, and I certainly haven't won anything ludicrous for a pound lately, like what I used to. I think this is a shame, though doubtless helpful to sellers. The problem is, a lot of people listing to Discogs go for "the most it's ever sold for + £15 " - rather than pricing to move. And so prices slowly inflate.
    "As technology has advanced, vinyl records are outdated as they are music from the 19th Century so only hipsters and elderly people buy vinyl records".

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  • #2
    if people don't buy them, the prices come down.

    I haven't won an auction for years. In fact I don't even bid on things anymore as I got so used to not winning anything.

    I tend to list on discogs just under the price it recommends
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    • #3
      if people don't buy them, the prices come down.

      I haven't won an auction for years. In fact I don't even bid on things anymore as I got so used to not winning anything.

      I tend to list on discogs just under the price it recommends
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      • #4
        Auctions turned into tenders with the arrival of sniping software.

        and tenders are no fun at all.
        Vardy.....¡¡¡PELIGRO!!!

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        • #5
          I list on Discogs making sure i'm the cheapest one for sale. Thus equilibrium is restored.

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          • #6
            There are still some bargains to be had on ebay - got a nice Blossom Dearie Live at Ronnie Scotts the other day for just a tenner
            But most of the seller seem to be putting things on as BINs which leaves little room for bottom trawling
            I agree with babycart and sniping has really killed auctions for me
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            • #7
              There are still some bargains to be had on ebay - got a nice Blossom Dearie Live at Ronnie Scotts the other day for just a tenner
              But most of the seller seem to be putting things on as BINs which leaves little room for bottom trawling
              I agree with babycart and sniping has really killed auctions for me
              "Record collecting is no mere hobby, no innocuous leisurely diversion. It is a feverish passion bordering on dementia, driving those under the influence to irrational, compulsive, fanatical extremes."

              Night of the Living Vinyl

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              • #8
                I actually do (did?) use sniping stuff, seems easier to use this than just potentially get drawn into a spending war so maybe I'm part of the problem! But in general yeah, it's the BINs - I guess why should a seller list for auction when he knows he might have to let something for for cheap, but it does seem to mean less bargains.
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                • #9
                  I'm one of those twits who decides what he can afford to pay for a record, puts a bid on, then has a look when the auctions over. As a result I never win anything. I'm usually outbid by, seemingly, the only other person who wants to buy that record. The amount of times I'm outbid by only one other person is amazing. If another copy then comes up I think I'm in with a chance because there was only one other bidder last time but, sure enough, once again I'll be outbid by a single bid- usually going on in the last two seconds. I've never tried that sniping thing but it's not really 'me'. I think it's against the spirit of the thing.
                  I agree with the observation about discogs sellers pricing at the highest sale point- or usually above it. It's galling when you look at something which should be reasonable but because someone once paid £50 for a copy of a £20 record the prices are starting at £60. I guess the 'vinyl revival' isn't helping. There's an assumption that all 'old' records are worth money now and people who are not used to buying them are easily suckered into paying a lot for cheap records. I'm sure no one would pay it but someone has got a copy of 'Rumours' on discogs for £200- Highest ever price £15.
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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Paul-K View Post
                    if people don't buy them, the prices come down.

                    I haven't won an auction for years. In fact I don't even bid on things anymore as I got so used to not winning anything.

                    I tend to list on discogs just under the price it recommends
                    Same, I used to buy off a guy from Japan called hardoffmusic who's auctions I ALWAYS bid on, he never lists anymore but I got some ridiculously rare Japanese records from him.
                    Whenever an auction ended with no bids that I missed out on I would message him asking if the record was still available and he always said yes and offered me it at the price he listed it and he always started his auctions at around 5 dollars so I got loads of records for $5.

                    He ended up offering me a massive lot of Japanese funk/disco/boogie/OST's that he didnt even bother listing on ebay, some of which I ended up trading on here, such a nice fella.

                    At one point he was in hospital though and now he hasnt listed anything since last year so I fear for the worst.
                    Since the postage prices went up I don't bother bidding/buying from sellers based in Japan unless its a bargain price and a record I really want and a lot of stuff is now listed at a stupidly high BIN price.

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                    • #11
                      No one seems to bidding on any electronica or nu jazz at the moment in my experience unless its the big names like AFX or BOC. Listened in to a couple of middle aged guys talking about their renewed passion for vinyl today just ripe for rinsing by xxx on ebay I thought. 'La Woman by the doors is the greatest album ever made' he probably has 100 copies never before seen in the world or likely to be again sitting in his garage ready for one of his crazy write ups.

                      Oh and Shere I got sick of being sniped years ago, so I always do it now, just put what your'e prepared to pay 3 seconds before the end. Job Done

                      Its when I've got no hard earned when I end up winning auctions a lot.
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                      • #12
                        I watched someone buy one for £20 quid not so long back, its an easy seller apparently if only more people realised there a million of the bloody things out there with the textured sleeve and all, I know I have two myself.

                        Originally posted by Shere Khan View Post
                        I'm one of those twits who decides what he can afford to pay for a record, puts a bid on, then has a look when the auctions over. As a result I never win anything. I'm usually outbid by, seemingly, the only other person who wants to buy that record. The amount of times I'm outbid by only one other person is amazing. If another copy then comes up I think I'm in with a chance because there was only one other bidder last time but, sure enough, once again I'll be outbid by a single bid- usually going on in the last two seconds. I've never tried that sniping thing but it's not really 'me'. I think it's against the spirit of the thing.
                        I agree with the observation about discogs sellers pricing at the highest sale point- or usually above it. It's galling when you look at something which should be reasonable but because someone once paid £50 for a copy of a £20 record the prices are starting at £60. I guess the 'vinyl revival' isn't helping. There's an assumption that all 'old' records are worth money now and people who are not used to buying them are easily suckered into paying a lot for cheap records. I'm sure no one would pay it but someone has got a copy of 'Rumours' on discogs for £200- Highest ever price £15.
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                        • #13
                          Cant edit but they also tend to be in much better condition than your average copy of DSOTM.
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                          • #14
                            "I'm one of those twits who decides what he can afford to pay for a record, puts a bid on, then has a look when the auctions over"
                            Same here. But i don't understand the snipe. Surely the sniper will only win if he sets his snipe higher than the maximum bid that I put in? Basically the person who is prepared to pay the most will win won't they? What advantage does it give someone to put the bid on at the last minute?

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                            • #15
                              Sure I've asked that before. I just don't get it. I'm not normally stupid but this is obviously my blind spot or something. I really don't get it.

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