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    I've always wondered about the big sellers of rare soul 45s and jazz LPs on eBay. Each week or month they have pages and pages of great and rare records for auction. Does anyone know how they amass such top-end stock so often? Do they have diggers all over the US? Or are they selling on behalf of other dealers? It strikes me that even an amazing shop like Euclid in New Orleans has a finite number of gems passing through its doors; these guys - I'm talking about Paperstax, Funkyou! etc - seem to have a neverending supply of collector-pleasing wax. What's the deal?

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    Probably buying big collections, but a lot of reselling goes on, I think. They get good prices, so people put stuff through them. I'm sure somebody else will have more info than me!

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    • #3
      I think there's a fair bit of consignment selling going on, and the top end items bring a lot of browsers so even the average stock gets good prices. I'm pretty sure if you had a rare soul 45, even if you paid them a 10% commission or whatever, you'd still get way over what you'd get selling yourself...

      I agree, though, the titles they consistently list are incredible.
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      • #4
        Tradera also has a seller with consistently good items every week, quite local to me, and he gets consistently very good money even for records that are not that rare, think MOJO stuff.
        I don't know him, but I've heard from friends who do that he pays better than anyone else, especially with good collections. He doesn't start anything below 8£ so I think he consigns all the small potatoes stuff to other dealers.

        I heard a story about him where he had a look at a large collection where 45s were mainly of interest, pulled 10 raers and paid 500£ as he didn't have transport, but made arrangements with the seller for the remaining collection. So he made a deal with another dealer, go back and get the rest of the collection for 500£, bring the 45s to me and you'll get the 500£, and you can keep the 5-600 LPs for the trouble. Then he heard the deal had fallen through. Turned out the other dealer had turned up and offered 200£, hoping to pocket the 300£ as well as getting the LPs...
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        • #5
          I think i remember reading that Funkyou! will blitz areas with leaflet drops and posters a la "bring us your collections".
          There was a WaxPoetics article on him going back to about 2005 where his quoted age then was 21 apparently. A young entrepreneur then.

          Used to enjoy trawling thru his $6 start auctions a few years ago (with $2 to the £ and reasonable postage - ah those were the days) and bought a few things. Others used to complain of condition issues at times but I never had a problem.

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          • #6
            Originally posted by candiman View Post
            I think i remember reading that Funkyou! will blitz areas with leaflet drops and posters a la "bring us your collections".
            Yep

            These links should shed some further light:
            http://waxidermy.com/bbs/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=15751

            http://waxidermy.com/bbs/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=43956
            it's OK to head out for wonderful, but on your way to wonderful, you're gonna have to pass through all right. When you get to all right,
            take a good look around and get used to it, because that may be as far as you're gonna go.

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            • #7
              They're full time dealers who put a lot of work in finding records. Which means flyers, posters, ads and endless house calls to folks who promise a basement full of thousands of untouched sealed LPs from the 50s/60s but in reality is a handful of VG- shitters with no sleeves. I exaggerate of course, but the process by and large is very tedious and can be incredibly frustrating.

              You and I don't see any of this of course, all we see are the ebay listings which are the results of the 1 in 1000 leads which actually comes to something.

              Some people slag them, as far as I'm concerned they work hard, take risks and get their rewards. Nothing wrong with that!
              http://www.jazzmanrecords.co.uk

              http://www.fatcity.co.uk

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              • #8
                That's it. Thought it was Waxi where I read it but was too lazy to search.

                The guy works hard for his money I'm sure.

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                • #9
                  The few people I know who deal records full time all complain the hardest thing is restocking (especially in the UK). With the people you mention, I would imagine there's a lot of of trading goes on, and that they have big inventories to work with. A lot of stuff comes through the network of other dealers.
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                  • #10
                    This is one that never ceases to amaze me , mostly sells jazz and classical, some rock but seems to have never ending top stock and lives only 2 miles away from me !

                    http://www.ebay.co.uk/sch/vinyl-hous...p2047675.l2562

                    completed listings

                    http://www.ebay.co.uk/sch/vinyl-hous...p2046732.m1684

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by reza View Post
                      That's a living.
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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by reza View Post
                        This is one that never ceases to amaze me , mostly sells jazz and classical, some rock but seems to have never ending top stock and lives only 2 miles away from me !

                        http://www.ebay.co.uk/sch/vinyl-hous...p2047675.l2562

                        completed listings

                        http://www.ebay.co.uk/sch/vinyl-hous...p2046732.m1684
                        I just asked him about an Ornette Coleman record as he has the same one listed 3 times in the last month all going for top rate. He said he had 5 of them altogether. Suspected he was hyping and then re-selling. Who knows.
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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by ROCKPROF View Post
                          I just asked him about an Ornette Coleman record as he has the same one listed 3 times in the last month all going for top rate. He said he had 5 of them altogether. Suspected he was hyping and then re-selling. Who knows.
                          Dont think there's any hype from him , he has his own site too where he talks about selling and the buyers and record renovation

                          http://vinyl-house.tumblr.com/

                          including, on the second page a picture of them throwing records in a skip !!!

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                          • #14
                            Some really enlightening posts here. Thanks. Those guys on the US board get pretty worked up. Who knew that buying and selling obsolete media products could cause such a hoo-hah? Interesting that they see it as akin to the British and French looting China for its art.

                            And that Vinyl House: exactly what I'm talking about. How do they maintain such mouth-watering quality of stock? I'm also impressed that people who know about jazz, soul etc also know about classical, which is another world entirely to me.

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                            • #15
                              That first Waxi thread posted above was great. Textbook 10 years ago internet.

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