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    Most of you, no doubt, will have seen the trailors for the new documentary about the history of soul (name escapes me at the moment Soul Deep, or something like that?) starting this weekend.

    Just wonder if it will be any better than the usual appraisals ie Ray Charles to Sam Cooke to Motown to Atlantic/Stax to 70's Wonder/Gaye to James Brown to George Clinton to modern "R&B". The End.

    It was discussed on 5 Live yesterday with one of the producers. He said they had previously unseen footage of James Carr which I'm ashamed to say that I only know from seeing the reissue LP but haven't heard the guy sing, so that sounds promising.

    Wonder if the funk portion will be about Mr. Brown and no one else.

    I suppose it would be too much to ask that some of the modern funk gets a mention ie Daptone, Soul Jazz etc releases. Judging by the conversation from the rest of the panel yesterday, Angie Stone, Mary J Blige and that lot will be the only modern stuff to get mentioned.

    We shall see.
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    Looks promising. .. ever read that interesting tome on soul music, "A Change is Gonna Come" ?

    A fairly interesting read on the field. . .got my copy from Fopp some moons back.Though I guess this could be accused of concentrating on merely the major figures of the funk era - Sly & JB etc. . . (it does cover the late 50's to the beginnings of the rap game) but it probably has more breadth than the TV doc can encompass. One thing that always grates when watching these series is when they do include a bit of really searing live performance (I recall seeing some brilliant flashes of Auger/Driscoll in the British Jazz - fusion doc) then cut away from it a few seconds later.

    That's them MTV aesthetics forja. A real shame they can't let the odd track or two play out. . .would make watching these programmes far more rewarding methinks.

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    • #3
      Tried frantically to find someone who could tape this for me... Anyone in London tape it, or could run a copy off - failing that, anyone know if it'll get repeated or if anyone even finds a torrent, maybe post the link for it!

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      • #4
        Sorry to say but I found this rather dull and tired. It felt like a repeat. Maybe it'll pick up now that they have (finally) arrived at the soul music bit...
        Endless Tripe

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        • #5
          Oh, just the usual stuff then: behind the scenes of a Stevie Wonder recording etc etc?
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          • #6
            Nah. I enjoyed it. I don't watch much music TV or documentaries so I may not be the best person to defend it, but I'd be suprised if they rolled out Stevie Wonder etal. (Very Very overrated artist IMO)
            Im not the greatest Ray Charles fan either, but thought his input was pretty good. Etta James had a few interview spots & Ruth Brown. They had Fathead Newman & Allen Tousaint on, so it was credible to me.
            Definately worth watching. I just love footage of Aretha Franklin in the 60's even if some may say its predictable.
            Hope that the soul section highlights other artist than the usual though.
            A Curtis section would be nice.
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            • #7
              So has anyone taped it, or planning to out a torrent up, or however that works...?


              There's no way I'm gonna catch this on a Sat night and my fucking video won't record e tcetc
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              • #8
                Originally posted by BoneyVotel
                Nah. I enjoyed it. I don't watch much music TV or documentaries so I may not be the best person to defend it, but I'd be suprised if they rolled out Stevie Wonder etal. (Very Very overrated artist IMO)
                Im not the greatest Ray Charles fan either, but thought his input was pretty good. Etta James had a few interview spots & Ruth Brown. They had Fathead Newman & Allen Tousaint on, so it was credible to me.
                Definately worth watching. I just love footage of Aretha Franklin in the 60's even if some may say its predictable.
                Hope that the soul section highlights other artist than the usual though.
                A Curtis section would be nice.
                I'm with boner on this one. thought it excellent. maybe against the fact that i'm used to watchin' 80s soul weak ender dodgy backin' tape northern soul docs with ian levine and the high energy backdroppers.........uuugh.
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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Nick Cope
                  So has anyone taped it, or planning to out a torrent up, or however that works...?


                  There's no way I'm gonna catch this on a Sat night and my fucking video won't record e tcetc
                  I have taped it. I will try and tape the whole series and will send you a copy if you're prepared to wait till the series is finished Nick?

                  I thought it was OK. Kinda what you expect and I too will look forward to the Aretha Franklin clips. Always spine tingling for me.
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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Campag Record
                    I have taped it. I will try and tape the whole series and will send you a copy if you're prepared to wait till the series is finished Nick?

                    I thought it was OK. Kinda what you expect and I too will look forward to the Aretha Franklin clips. Always spine tingling for me.
                    That would be fuckin' awesome of you mate! I'll gladly supply you with something in return: a copy of my new HF&S LP & 45 maybe...?!!
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