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    i've been going through some of my vinyl soundtracks and was wondering, how do you know how rare something is let alone how much it's worth? figure I'd ask some of you pros out there who know what to look for.

  • #2
    How long is a piece of string?

    There are so many reasons.
    i) It might have only been a promo.
    ii) It might have only been released in a particular country.
    iii) It might have sold really badly at the time.
    iv) It might have had bad distribution.
    v) It might have had a track that a well-known DJ started championing, thus starting the demand.

    A good way of checking is to have a look at places like eBay and GEMM and see what the the records you own are selling for. The the truth is no record has intrinsic value unless someone else is prepared to buy it from you. A book might tell you it's worth 30 quid, but if no-one offers you £30, then it's clearly not worth that much.
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    • #3
      very good points mr grimsby.

      I think composer has a lot to do with it too. There are die hard morricone fans who *MUST* have everything he has done - thus making terrible records very costly due to the few people chasing them and the fact that some were pressed in very few numbers.

      Dealers lists are always useful - but take a bit off for a more 'real' price.

      Ebay can be useful. Some things stay constant (the countdown at kusini ost) - while other bits are up and down like a yo-yo.

      But always ask on here as if someone knows then they will tell (what they know that is)
      www.thesoundlibrary.net <- Changed URL

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      • #4
        not really much to add to the excellent points already on here, except to note that there are a couple of respected price guides in the soundtracks field (since it&#39;s been a well-known and long standing vinyl collector genre since the 40s). both US titles, check Osborne&#39;s price guide and McNally&#39;s price guides. both list some titles that the other one misses. personally I think Osborne&#39;s is better - more comprehensive and also more realistic prices. McNally&#39;s pricing is a joke, particularly for non-US stuff. note that these guides don&#39;t tend to include the skewed pricing for stuff with beats or funk though - the blax collectability was only starting to hot up when the last printings were done.

        a couple of really finger-in-the-air ways of figuring rarity (but not worth):

        - have you heard of the record label?
        - have you heard of the movie?
        - have you ever seen another copy in a shop?
        - is it a Big Name composer?
        - can you find any reference to it online?
        - does it have a photocopied or black and white only sleeve?
        - is there any publishing or copyright info on the record label?

        although it&#39;s a well-collected area, new stuff turns up all the time, and a great deal passes through the specialist soundtrack dealers (not the funk guys) to older collectors who often don&#39;t use the Internet, so get on these guys&#39; lists and get their lists by post to get an idea what turns up when and for how much.

        mail me if you want some names and addresses, or have a specific q or two...
        http://www.blaxploitation.com
        Chops for show, groove for dough.

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        • #5
          Originally posted by [b
          Quote[/b] (theeman @ 26 June 2003,13:26)]not really much to add to the excellent points already on here, except to note that there are a couple of respected price guides in the soundtracks field (since it&#39;s been a well-known and long standing vinyl collector genre since the 40s). both US titles, check Osborne&#39;s price guide and McNally&#39;s price guides. both list some titles that the other one misses. personally I think Osborne&#39;s is better - more comprehensive and also more realistic prices. McNally&#39;s pricing is a joke, particularly for non-US stuff. note that these guides don&#39;t tend to include the skewed pricing for stuff with beats or funk though - the blax collectability was only starting to hot up when the last printings were done.

          a couple of really finger-in-the-air ways of figuring rarity (but not worth):

          - have you heard of the record label?
          - have you heard of the movie?
          - have you ever seen another copy in a shop?
          - is it a Big Name composer?
          - can you find any reference to it online?
          - does it have a photocopied or black and white only sleeve?
          - is there any publishing or copyright info on the record label?

          although it&#39;s a well-collected area, new stuff turns up all the time, and a great deal passes through the specialist soundtrack dealers (not the funk guys) to older collectors who often don&#39;t use the Internet, so get on these guys&#39; lists and get their lists by post to get an idea what turns up when and for how much.

          mail me if you want some names and addresses, or have a specific q or two...
          hey ed,
          I found a copy of they came to rob las vegas (orig french pressing ? ).
          With diffrent cover (and french titles).
          Are there other out there ?

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          • #6
            Originally posted by [b
            Quote[/b] (pokester @ 26 June 2003,13:34)]hey ed,
            I found a copy of they came to rob las vegas (orig french pressing ? ).
            With diffrent cover (and french titles).
            Are there other out there ?
            interesting&#33; i&#39;ve seen the French 45 with some of the tracks off this LP (which if you don&#39;t know it, is fantastic) but have never heard of a full French LP release. it&#39;s an LP that was supposed to have been UK-only... not any more&#33;

            like Johnny Harris - Movements then (there&#39;s an Argentinian pressing of that one&#33... you never know where these albums got a release...
            http://www.blaxploitation.com
            Chops for show, groove for dough.

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            • #7
              Originally posted by [b
              Quote[/b] (theeman @ 26 June 2003,13:58)]
              Originally posted by [b
              Quote[/b] (pokester @ 26 June 2003,13:34)]hey ed,
              I found a copy of they came to rob las vegas (orig french pressing ? ).
              With diffrent cover (and french titles).
              Are there other out there ?
              interesting&#33; i&#39;ve seen the French 45 with some of the tracks off this LP (which if you don&#39;t know it, is fantastic) but have never heard of a full French LP release. it&#39;s an LP that was supposed to have been UK-only... not any more&#33;

              like Johnny Harris - Movements then (there&#39;s an Argentinian pressing of that one&#33... you never know where these albums got a release...
              yes, ed it&#39;s the same cover as the 45 (les hommes de las vegas)
              I&#39;ll send you the picture and info.

              Argentinian eddie harris.. is it with the same cover ?

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              • #8
                Yo Ed&#33;

                You&#39;re back... So how has NYC?
                http://wakeupanddie.com
                http://weirdgearnyc.com
                http://makethingsmatter.com

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by [b
                  Quote[/b] (pokester @ 26 June 2003,14:10)]yes, ed it&#39;s the same cover as the 45 (les hommes de las vegas)
                  I&#39;ll send you the picture and info.

                  Argentinian eddie harris.. is it with the same cover ?
                  yeah, please mail the info about the Las Vegas LP, presumably on Philips?

                  i don&#39;t have the movements Argentinian press - ask Iueke. i think he said it had the same cover?

                  hey nick&#33; how long &#39;til the next meet then, sounds like the last one was a cracker&#33;

                  no bloody records in NYC (at least not for people without a lottery win) although bizarrely another good restaurant funk LP turned up for a princely 3 bucks&#33;
                  http://www.blaxploitation.com
                  Chops for show, groove for dough.

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                  • #10
                    &#39;Restaurant Funk&#39;. Sounds interesting.

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by [b
                      Quote[/b] (Blighty @ 26 June 2003,19:53)]&#39;Restaurant Funk&#39;. Sounds interesting.
                      &quot;Beats you can eat&#33;&#33;&quot;
                      Let him have the lot for £2.00 - we were only going to throw 'em out anyway...

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