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    I think we’re pretty much at phase two of Black Cabs & London Fog now. The 17 track listing has been finalised – I’m afraid that we’ve run out of room for any extra, last minute entries, so sorry to John.S and anyone else out there keen to contribute.

    There may be space, however, for one more vocal skit at the end, so if anyoneÂ’s got something thickly regional that inadvertently mentions words relating to what we waste our free time on, letÂ’s hear it!

    So, phase two is basically the mastering, manufacture and design work for the comp. If Wooly’s offer to master the whole thing is still on the table, I think we should take him up on it – get the whole nice and consistent on the volume levels front etc.

    We'll also need the original copies of some of the tracks to re-record. For instance, some were sent in on minidisc, some had earth issues, slight background buzz, rumble etc.

    For manufacturing, all suggestions welcome. I guess some sort of package where they’ll include the printing of a basic insert for cover and tracklisting – of which, may I suggest printing the contributor and a blank space for the owner to fill in the track name and artist himself, a bit of novelty design to encourage the ‘treasure hunt’.

    Also, volunteers for the design are welcome too. Ed has already suggested asking the fella who does all his Liquorice Soul design work, who also does loads of CD stuff for BMG Europe. My friend Julian, multiple award winning designer with a penchant for sleeve designs may be up for it, described by Peter Saville as the best designer in the country right now... However, maybe weÂ’re not looking for a design classic for this particular project...

    So that’s the outline for Phase Two – plenty of things to volunteer for etc, so no need to feel left out if you didn’t manage to get tracks in etc!

    HereÂ’s a couple of suggestions of my own to get the phase two debate rolling:

    For the design, I propose an image not unlike covers like Entroducing, or even the Black Chains comp... IÂ’m picturing a perspective heavy photo of two lanes of car boots, backed up and facing each other. A strip of grass between the two, as if the photographer is standing at one end of an airstrip. All around the boots mill a wide array of boot folk, old ladies etc, rather than record hunters. It may clash with the title though, unless we can find a black cab being used in a car boot sale, which would hilarious!

    My second suggestion concerns the amount to be pressed up. I suggest we limit copies to ten for each contributor. Despite the fact that it would probably cost the same amount to have 500 as 170, I feel uncomfortable about having 500 for two reasons:

    Firstly, we’re trying to keep it from being a boot. It’s not for sale, it’s not even a promo – but having 500 copies floating around, well that’s getting towards a proper distributed release so to speak and I feel a bit dodgy about that in today’s times. I mean, what are we gonna do with 500 copies? There’ll be piles lying around the place, we’ll never get around to getting rid of them all, quite a lot of hassle, constantly mailing CDs to people etc.

    The other reason is that limiting the amount to ten each for each contributor - and copies for everyone else who contributes by providing other tasks such as design, mastering etc – helps reign in the whole thing and keep a buzz going. This will help its cult status. It creates more of a demand and will result in whoever getting an OG copy, burning it for their circle of friends, so it ends up in a state of what I call ‘natural distribution’. This decentralises our role in the spreading of the music and will certainly feel less of an operation on the issue of ethics etc. But I’m convinced that limiting this project, in an already limited world of collectors and lovers of this kind of stuff, will definitely help get the buzz going – make a just a tad more difficult to get a copy and you’ll create more demand, more expectation and excitement in tracking down the track listing – more feeling in involvement and less of the idea that it’s us showing others what it’s all about, if you catch my drift – more communal, more sharing. So that’s my pitch for a limited run...
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    nick, i'm definitely still up for fitting in the mastering.

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    • #3
      Originally posted by [b
      Quote[/b] (Nick Cope @ Aug. 12 2003,16:46)]For manufacturing, all suggestions welcome. I guess some sort of package where they’ll include the printing of a basic insert for cover and tracklisting – of which, may I suggest printing the contributor and a blank space for the owner to fill in the track name and artist himself, a bit of novelty design to encourage the ‘treasure hunt’.
      As a layout for the cover, how about borrowing the design of I Spy books? (I tried to order 'I Spy Big Diggers And Working Machines' or summat from Amazon a while back but they didn't have it, but I did get a music one). To run with the treasure hunting theme...

      And I hear you about the numbers issue, but will 170 a) satisfy the demand on the board and b) create critical mass for 'natural distribution'?

      Finally, who should we send the rekkids to then, for proper recording?

         
      You freeking scientologists are all the same, quible, dribble and then demand ice creams. Ohhhhhhhhhhh.

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      • #4
        Sermad's got a pretty good set-up for A/D recording, so how about that, ?
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        • #5
          sermad and me can handle proper digital recording. depending on how busy sermad is, i'll handle anything he hasn't got time to sort.

          sermad mate - your call!
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          • #6
            I know 500 CDs *sounds* like alot of copies (indeed it is if you have to carry it, or it falls on you or something), but considering the number of people involved in the comp directly as contributors, others who have lent invaluable support during the audition process *and* those who will also be involved in the maufacture who will all want multiple copies.... 170 wouldn't go very far.

            In uderstand your concerns about the 'iffy' nature of the legal side of the comp too, but IMHO 500 copies will not exactly make a major dent in the numbers of CD sold on an hourly basis in yr average HMV. I don't think we are in for major hassle with 'The Man' on this one.

            Mind you, let's not try and get distribution from a company who owns the rights to one of the tracks eh
            Matt Hero

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            • #7
              Originally posted by [b
              Quote[/b] (Matt Hero @ Aug. 12 2003,18:08)]Mind you, let's not try and get distribution from a company who owns the rights to one of the tracks eh
              hahahahaha thats not quite the right storry...but along those lines.

              right...yes I'm a busy bee at the moment but I've got time to do recordings as its something I can do while playing gameboy, moulding hair into lego fashion, patenting the elbow scratch etc etc.

              Rich you still need me to do your ones?
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              • #8
                Yes please nice Mr Sermad.  

                Col&#39;s just been listening to promo that &#39;...liberally uses of J-Walk&#39;s &#39;Soul Vibrations&#39; as the backing. The track in question is called &#39;I Just Wanna Say&#39; by Micelle Lawson and according to the press release the J-Walk track is actually the instrumental version of this one and Micelle co-wrote it with them...&#39;. Hmmm...



                And I think Ilmod1 might get a bit of shock when he gets back, what with you patenting his patented turntablist steez and the rest of us planning a cheap day return to his visit nice old ladies.
                You freeking scientologists are all the same, quible, dribble and then demand ice creams. Ohhhhhhhhhhh.

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                • #9
                  oh bollocks.
                  We know when a mate buys it for you too.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by [b
                    Quote[/b] (Nick Cope @ Aug. 12 2003,16:46)]For the design, I propose an image not unlike covers like Entroducing, or even the Black Chains comp... IÂ’m picturing a perspective heavy photo of two lanes of car boots, backed up and facing each other. A strip of grass between the two, as if the photographer is standing at one end of an airstrip. All around the boots mill a wide array of boot folk, old ladies etc, rather than record hunters.
                    I really like this idea - a pastiche of the Endtroducing cover at a car boot, I think anyone would get that, and it&#39;s both clever and witty (always a nice combo I reckon). As for the title, well that&#39;s descriptive of the music isn&#39;t it? So the cover is descriptive of how (where) the music was found, no? I&#39;m sold.


                    As for numbers, I think 500 is going to be ok, more so than 170 for the reasons Matt &amp; Rich gave. How can a CD that&#39;s not being sold and is not a promo be like a proper distributed release?
                    Let him have the lot for £2.00 - we were only going to throw 'em out anyway...

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                    • #11
                      Quote--&#39;Col&#39;s just been listening to promo that &#39;...liberally uses of J-Walk&#39;s &#39;Soul Vibrations&#39; as the backing. The track in question is called &#39;I Just Wanna Say&#39; by Micelle Lawson and according to the press release the J-Walk track is actually the instrumental version of this one and Micelle co-wrote it with them...&#39;. Hmmm&#39;.



                      yeah but &#39;soul vibrations&#39; uses chunks of several different chewns includin&#39; &#39;California Soul&#39; amongst others, so who&#39;s robbin&#39; peter to pay paul??.
                      &#39;an i&#39;m bloody interested in a copy &#39;o&#39;this here &#39;project&#39;&#33;&#33;&#33;, respect to all involved &#39;an more fookin&#39; power to yer elbow, almost reminds me &#39;o&#39; the golden days of punk, when the D.I.Y attitude rooolled&#33;&#33;&#33;. fook the fookin&#39; major record labels, that&#39;s what i say&#33;
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                      • #12
                        I&#39;m happy to offer design type skills, however I think the entroducing booter image is perfect and I&#39;m not really the photographer ( well I am , but I&#39;m not really a booter having no car ) . . . could do a nice fill-out-as-you-find&#39;em form tho&#39;
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                        • #13
                          Maybe i could go to a few boots with Sermad, armed with a Lomo for increased colour&#33;

                          I guess 500 would be okay - I brought it up more on the grounds of whether it might help fuel the buzz, rather than the ethical angle, that&#39;s just me worrying...

                          Yeah, sorry John - though we might be able to fit a track from you if we faded the 6 min track after 3 mins or so... But we&#39;ve got that amazing skit for the intro from you, those who heard it on Monday will confirm that it&#39;s bloody hilarious&#33;
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                            • #15
                              Hot damn&#33; Now all we&#39;ve got to do is go there, get them to back a bunch up opposite each other and open the boots&#33;
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