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    Howdie. I'm sure many of you are aware of this very groovy piece of British Jazz. Mike Westbrook's Original Peter, vocals by Norma Winstone. There are two versions - one on the LP "Love Songs", the other on a super rare Deram 7" light blue label promo. Now, this 7" is where my querie lies. There are rumours (but only small rumours) that this 7" promo version was used in a mid 1970s BBC arts programme. A bit like the South Bank Show. Does anyone know anything about this arts programme. I badly need to know what show the track was used for. Please tell me someone...I can't be arsed to call the BBC.
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    Was it anything to do with Humphrey Burton's "Aquarius" TV arts prog?

    That was ITV though - are you sure it was the Beeb?

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    • #3
      This is a good and fresh lead, although I'm sure it was a BBC Two show. Well that's the rumour.
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      • #4
        Aquarius actually used 'Aquarius' from Hair as it's theme tune.

        BBC 2 had an arts programme in the mid-70s called 'The Lively Arts', which I think was a spin-off from another show (possibly Man Alive or Late Night Line-Up?) Dunno whether it had a theme tune, though. 'Omnibus' came a bit later, but the credits I've got from 1978 are a Radiophonic-type synth piece.

        Any chance of an mp3? I might be able to identify the prog if I can hear a little bit of the tune.

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        • #5
          Yes, The Lively Arts seems very much in the right direction, sounds exactly the sort of oddball BBC2 show that would have an old grey jazz theme for an opener. Not sure about manufacturing an MP3, I'll have a go and see what I can do. I managed to upload a picture, an MP3 can't be a milion miles away...
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          • #6
            Don't know whether my comment should be in this thread, or the BBC4 one.

            Recently saw the Stephen Poliakoff drama 'Caught On A Train' on BBC4's Poliakoff season. Wasn't dead fussed by the play, but the music throughout was gorgeous and it turned out (as the end credits rolled) that it was a Mike Westbrook score. Even as late-period as 1980 it was a great listen.

            If it's not commercially available in some form, it should be. Anyone who has any leverage with the BBC, please use your powers (or threats) to get the master tapes!!
            Jet Boy stole my baby.

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            • #7
              [QUOTE=Senor Trunk]Howdie. I'm sure many of you are aware of this very groovy piece of British Jazz. Mike Westbrook's Original Peter, vocals by Norma Winstone. There are two versions - one on the LP "Love Songs", the other on a super rare Deram 7" light blue label promo.

              The 'Original Peter' 45 was also issued on the bog-standard white/tan Deram label. Quite besides the point, I know and apologise.

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              • #8
                and is it a different cut on the 45 to the LP?

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by francis
                  and is it a different cut on the 45 to the LP?
                  yes totally different, more uptempo, more crazy, more craved for!
                  Buckingham pecker!

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                  • #10
                    Wow Simon, I had no idea - a tan and white issue as well as the blue and white promo baby. This is news to me. I shall now trot off and tell all the expenisve jazz dealers who have so far misinformed me that this is the case. Have you seen / got one of these poo brown and white ones?? I've only seen two, both the light blue promos. Like a weird myuthical beast, I must know if it's out there. Deram did strange dark brown promos too. Funny old label.
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                    • #11
                      ...It doesn't get much more jazz than having the worlds greatest handballancer on stage with a fully bearded band and Norma Winstone at her prime ...Anyone know if Peter Performed at many of Westbrook's gigs?
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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by Senor Trunk
                        Wow Simon, I had no idea - a tan and white issue as well as the blue and white promo baby. This is news to me. I shall now trot off and tell all the expenisve jazz dealers who have so far misinformed me that this is the case. Have you seen / got one of these poo brown and white ones?? I've only seen two, both the light blue promos. Like a weird myuthical beast, I must know if it's out there. Deram did strange dark brown promos too. Funny old label.
                        Yup, I have the white/tan copy. Also have a poster for 'Love Songs', advertising the LP, a live date at the Notre Dame Hall, London, as well as the 'Original Peter' single. Indeed, a funny old label. Hello Johnny, if, that is, it's you. I'm a friend of Godsy's, met you some time ago.

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                        • #13
                          Aha Simon, yes, we did a mini disk British jazz swapsie years ago. You the man!! Yes since you recorded Original P for me from the charity shop seven I have been looking for it everyhere, bloody nightmare to find., And so now, 5 years on I have one. And still no one can confirm what BBC arts show it comes from, and that was the whole point of the Original (Peter) Post. Anyway, hello again Simon, hope all is groovy, if you are up for another minidisk / CD swaperama let me know.
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                          • #14
                            I have been searching 3 years and I haven't found one yet .. and I'm in Norway ..
                            Buckingham pecker!

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by teddyrosso
                              I have been searching 3 years and I haven't found one yet ..
                              Might take a bit longer than 3 years...

                              Jazzman's re-issuing it (the 45 version) with John Cameron "Troublemaker" on the flip.
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