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  • Jay - nice haul. Just an idea, but you could just play them, and see if you like them?

    I know, crazy idea.

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    • Originally posted by bennyboy View Post
      Jay - nice haul. Just an idea, but you could just play them, and see if you like them?

      I know, crazy idea.
      I have played one of them... Not for me
      In pile is quite large too, quite a lot of stuff I know I like but I'll get round to them some day.

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      • Wait till no one is in the house/flat whatever and your'e in a chilled frame of mind preferably evening put on 'Under Milk Wood' 'eye's shut , relax, repeat' have that 'Fatboy Slim'

        Seriously though its beautiful music.

        Originally posted by medlar View Post
        You're being rather coy Jay! Fantastic haul!
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        • Originally posted by jay View Post


          I picked this lot up yesterday when I went to view a collection. Haven't yet played any of them so I don't know what they're like but the records are pristine. Don't listen to jazz really either (or know much about it) so might just trade them for something.

          Anything here I should be giving a whirl?

          Edit. Just played the tubby Hayes and Paul Gonsalves one due to him being mentioned in the post above. Not my cup of skad. It's too "jazzy" if that even makes sense.

          Kind Of Blue
          is of course one of the greatest jazz albums of all time. Wait until tonight, relax in a dark room, and do nothing else but listen. If it doesn't grab you then jazz is definitely not for you.

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          • Originally posted by candiman View Post

            Kind Of Blue
            is of course one of the greatest jazz albums of all time. Wait until tonight, relax in a dark room, and do nothing else but listen. If it doesn't grab you then jazz is definitely not for you.
            What he said.

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            • Top-of-the line pieces like those tend to have something going for them. Stick with all of them for a while. Unless they can be used towards another piece that you know you'll like, and there is a risk you'll lose it.
              Last edited by Grim Lounge Cowboy; 27-02-2016, 04:22 PM. Reason: Surplus word

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              • A couple of finds to round off February. I've had a picky month and left a lot behind that I would otherwise have brought home but these beauties are more than deserving entries to the hallowed cubes of kallax.

                Whatever you might think of classical music Maria Callas has a stunning voice full of raw beauty.

                Another beautiful album. Some of the most wonderful ragas I've managed to get my hands on so far. Not a bad end to the month.

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                • I cant claim to be an expert on Indian Classical music despite listening to it for years. I was shown a set of tablas once and shown the basic hits and slides I suppose I'll call them, you do to make a noise each one with a corresponding word. There are various different approaches he was having lessons in but one school of playing. He then played me 'Sounds of India' by 'Ravi Shankar' on CD. It was a pivotal moment in my appreciation of music.

                  Indian instruments like the tabla seem simple enough they are just two drums but the dedication and strength needed to play to any standard takes years of controlled practice. I've heard tabla players in their 90's pulling off some serious moves and certain noises that can only be produced when you can play at a certain level. Its the only form of music Instrumentation where the older and dedicated the player is the better they get. Sounds nonsensical in a way.

                  Anyway to tie it in to relaxing to 'Kind of Blue' I always used to relax to 'Indian Classical' music and it would chill me out until I heard one piece which a year before would probably have made me blissfully fall asleep but I now realised it was super hectic almost nightmarish. Not all ragas are relaxing is what I suppose I'm trying to say and that I'm jealous of that 'Ali Akbar Khan' find he's truly great, probably the greatest 'Sarod' player who ever graced the earth.

                  Funnily enough jazz wise I worked my way back from fusion to a bit of spiritual jazz and the avant garde so 'Kind of Blue' would probably be in double figures if you put my listening to Miles Davis albums in context. I always used to think its the one with 'So What', well 'so what!' I've listened to it many times now in a relaxed setting and its so much more than that.

                  Sorry just rambling I love good jazz finds and I love Indian Classical Music.
                  Last edited by amidar; 27-02-2016, 06:53 PM. Reason: missing words
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                  • Originally posted by amidar View Post
                    I cant claim to be an expert on Indian Classical music despite listening to it for years.I love Indian Classical Music.
                    Help me out with a few starters, I like the sound but it is such a minefield!
                    some times play g+ with back noise,some times vg , super psyché juju lpfront sleeve is very nice vg back vg , but the top corne left is eating buy rats, ask for picture

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                    • Medlar Listen Again to Saturdays edition of R3's 'Record Review' there's an hour long introduction to Indian Classical, and there are some fine improv ragas played. They also recommend this The Raga Guide - An illustrated survey of 74 Hindustani Ragas

                      http://www.wyastone.co.uk/the-raga-g...ani-ragas.html

                      The following programme on baroque trumpet is also worth a listen.
                      record licker

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                      • Just go for it, if the tracks are raga's you soon learn to pick out big names 'Allah Rakah' on tabla for example (father of Zakir Hussain). I'm no expert and I'm not going to google and pretend to be but I think having 'Ustad' before your name means your'e a virtuoso player it's a mark of achieving a high level of skill becoming the master if you will. Anything by Ali Akbar Khan, Bismillah Khan, Kartick Kumar, Ravi Shanker (Never heard a duff Ravi album the live ones at the festivals are awesome especially 'Live at Monterey 67' and the 'Woodstock' one) or the new school of things by 'Zakir Hussain' anything really but seeing this king of thing live is where its at!

                        It kind of comes down to how you like the persons playing. A raga builds and builds and builds sometimes up to and over half an hour what starts off slow becomes very fast and busy. Just another thought when you see a 'tabla' player say all those words at super speed (see the Allah Rakah, Zakir video below) what they are doing is singing first what they are going to play. A raga will as I understand it introduce its basic melody and rhythmic cycle and then build upon that via improvisation but not in a jazz way.

                        I used to see loads of this kind of thing on cassette but never do these days.

                        Few names 'Nikhil Banerjee' ace sitar player, 'Manilal Nag' another top sitar player 'Vilayaat Khan' sitar again very well known in India or I like this guy on tabla Anindo Chatterjee crazy good.:



                        and father and son:



                        Your'e right though its a minefield there a lots of indian instruments or some things you expect to be music turn out to be all singing. I made friends with a guy who let me have a lot of stuff he'd digitized a few years back. I lost the majority of it after a HD crash all the best stuff too including a 6 cd Ali Akbar Khan set from Radio recordings he did, wonderful music, oh well Karma I suppose for not buying it but it was early internet days and I was pretty clueless.

                        This is the album that started it off for me. As I understand it 'Ravi Shanker' was charged with the task of introducing Indian Classical music to a western audience by his master and so off he went. I believe this is his earliest recorded work commercially released late 50's some time.:

                        Last edited by amidar; 28-02-2016, 12:27 PM. Reason: tidy up.
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                        • I wonder if that Bismillah Khan LP is still there at the library sale.

                          Nat Adderley - "You baby". WRC release. Ex+/Ex+ (although possibly not such a good pressing, it sounds weedy). Still, it was only $0, so no grumbles. Good for "Electric eel" - Zawinul on epiano gives it a 'silent way' vibe. String arrangement - William Fischer
                          Last edited by Grim Lounge Cowboy; 28-02-2016, 06:19 AM. Reason: Now with added eel and strings

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                          • Originally posted by relkeel View Post
                            Listen Again to Saturdays edition of R3's 'Record Review' there's an hour long introduction to Indian Classical, and there are some fine improv ragas played.
                            Do you have a link to this? I can't find it. Here's another find of mine from the end of last year that transports me. An 1980 LP on the Deutsche Grammophon label.



                            I can definitely relate to your description of how these LPs and Miles Davis take you off somewhere lovely (I'm paraphrasing ). I have the same. Sketches of Spain is my go to Miles LP. The Maria Callas album has the same effect.

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                            • Originally posted by Skip View Post
                              Do you have a link to this? I can't find it.

                              http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b071btys

                              01.55 onwards.
                              record licker

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                              • Ah brilliant, thanks. I hadn't spotted the second part.

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